<p>Cal is known worldwide…UCLA is not…Im from India and the majority of my relatives have heard of Princeton, Harvard, Yale…and Berkeley!!!</p>
<p>prolly the only public school that is pretty well known and continuously ranks in the top 10…</p>
<p>but yea I agree about the chicks part…from what I have heard chicks at Cal are hideous.</p>
<p>There’s one good looking girl at Cal… but she’s mine!</p>
<p>Agree. Many of my friends in China don’t even know UCLA.</p>
<p>Prestige is just a word for other people’s opinion. Who cares if someone overseas hasn’t heard of UCLA? Obviously they’re not qualified to give you an opinion on a quality education if they haven’t even HEARD of the school. Anyone in the United States has heard of UCLA.</p>
<p>so “prestige even” is just your opinion.</p>
<p>I’d choose Cal or UCLA if I could just based on conveniece. I’ve been in the bay area for ahwile and I’d hate to adjust to a new area then move again only two years later.</p>
<p>Kudos: well it matters…to a degree. I was merely comparing UCLA and Cal…and more people abroad have heard of Cal than UCLA. </p>
<p>both are excellent schools IMO</p>
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Anyone that is in a position to hire will know about UCLA. Or else, why would you even want to work for said employer?</p>
<p>Ditto Eschatos, but also add that I live in SoCal and I don’t like LA (shocker, I know). </p>
<p>Weather: Berkeley > UCLA (I like the rain, and their reverse seasons)
Girls: Irrelevant! Boys also irrelevant, since I’m semi-taken. 
Sports: Berkeley > UCLA because I have more experience with Berkeley/Stanford football than anything from UCLA
Party scene: Not a priority, I can always find one when I want one (or make one!)
Campus: Berkeley > UCLA (Urban flavor, let’s call it. Plus I like the big city feel without the cloistered thing UCLA has going on.)
Academics: Irrelevant, I find them to be equal or at least close enough it doesn’t matter.
Prestige: Also irrelevant.</p>
<p>The biggest thing for me is the Bay Area. I have many fond memories of the place, and it’s probably where I’ll move once I’ve settled into my career. I very much adore it for everything it has, and it is in the perfect place in relation to everything else I want. What more could I ask for? Smog? </p>
<p>Berkeley is a great fit for me, in the non-academic sense at the very least. ^^</p>
<p>ETA, re: weather: I spent 8 weeks in Stanford during the summer for a summer college thing. It was absolutely gorgeous all 8 weeks, minus maybe 2 days where it was cloudy and one where it misted. I WAS BORED TO DEATH, and I would never wish that on anyone. I like the changing seasons. California deprives me. ;)</p>
<p>hey everyone :)</p>
<p>Everyone from my college (except one or two) that was TAP certified got in last year. It’s obviously not a guarantee…but pretty close.</p>
<p>I know we’ve somewhat discussed this before…buuut i was wondering how many of you know TAP students that were rejected from UCLA and why they were most likely rejected…stats, etc.</p>
<p>Yes, i know many of you are sick of hearing about this, but unfortunately, i’m freaking out!.. so some examples would help me be more realistic about what I should expect later this week…</p>
<p>good luck to you all by the way.
I hope we ALL get in…that’d be sweet.</p>
<p>All TAP students from my college got in as well.</p>
<p>is it too late to bribe the admissions officers?</p>
<p>I wasn’t thinking about it too much, but now that my gf is signing up for her orientation, these next few days are gonna take forever</p>
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Ok, that’s fine, but then you say:
So which is it? As my favorite comedian Daniel Tosh says, “Don’t you love living in southern California? And people from Omaha come here and they say things like, ‘Oh this place is great, but I like seasons. I couldn’t live there, I love seasons.’ So do I, that’s why I live in a place that skips the shtty ones. Your city BLOWS.”
Well, you’re one of the few who enjoys the ghetto. To each his own I guess…</p>
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You live in Riverside, I think you already have more smog than the San Fernando Valley has to offer. I’ve rarely if ever seen smog in the Westwood area.</p>
<p>hobofromdowntown: are you a girl?</p>
<p>It was gorgeous. I won’t pretend I don’t like sunny days. But I like variety. So while I can appreciate a sunny day once in a while, if it’s nothing but, I just can’t stand it. It’s like the sweet never being as sweet without the bitter, you know? </p>
<p>And yes, I like the ghetto. I grew up a sheltered suburban child, so, in the spirit of seeking new experiences, it’s time for a change. Plus college is an insulated enough experience (2 years!) that I can check it out without being committed to a 10 year lease.</p>
<p>I was kidding about the smog. I hardly even notice it here, though I know it gets nasty sometimes. The only time I really notice it is when I’m at the beach and realize that the air smells good.</p>
<p>do ap units go towards the 60 credit count? I posted that in another forum and I believe they do, but does anyone have any decisive info or opinions?</p>
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Be careful then. My friend goes to Berkeley, and he’s had his car broken into twice. It wouldn’t be so bad, but he lives in an apt. complex with a locked garage. They stole pretty much all of his car accessories and an engineering textbook (what the f…?). He was also mugged by a homeless guy while walking home. My friend pulled a knife on the guy, and he promptly let go of his arm and backed off.</p>
<p>Another friend of mine played on the USF baseball team, where two of his teammates and their coach had their cars stolen.</p>
<p>While I’m most likely headed to USC, I can’t say that my motivation for going there is because of the surrounding area. In fact, I have reservations about doing so.</p>
<p>I’m used to that sort of behavior, somewhat. I live in Riverside. While I realize it’s more likely to be a problem in Berkeley, I’m not too worried about it. It’s life, and I won’t be doing anything to encourage the behavior, like walking home alone at midnight or anything. I won’t call myself street smart by any definition, but I would easily be able to do what I could to avoid it. Beyond that, what can you do?</p>
<p>Mmm… good luck with USC. I almost went there three times now. 
Interesting part of town, to say the least!</p>
<p>Psh, Berkeley is not bad at all unless you’ve lived your whole life in relative privilege I agree that it’s not my ideal university atmosphere, and I personally like the UCLA/Stanford environments better, but it’s a hell of a lot more true to life than living in the college bubble, and some people like that. </p>
<p>Btw, the biggest thing that UCLA has on Berkeley are the girls, no question :)</p>