<p>Forgive me if I’m wrong, but you strike me as someone who is fresh out of high school and who doesn’t yet realize that people in the real world don’t give a s hit about high school. IT MEANS NOTHING. You have this very high school centric way of thinking and I just don’t think you’re coming from a very reasonable perspective. I would be interested in hearing what you have to say after you’ve completed your transfer process. I suspect that you won’t think that high school work is soooooooo much harder and more involved than CC work once you actually have a significant amount of CC work under your belt.</p>
<p>i’m not talking about international students, i’m talking about those permanent residence like myself which is just like normal citizens (almost)</p>
<p>we pay the same amount as you guys do</p>
<p>i hope you realize that immigrants are way different than international students</p>
<p>immigrants = green card
international students = student visa</p>
<p>Colin, seriously you are just talking crazy now. You are presuming to know why some complete strangers made the descisions they did. You seem sheltered. I would suggest getting out a bit more and listening to people rather than telling them their own life story. WOW the nerve of some people. In a couple years you will look back and see how silly you acted but until then I guess we have to put up with you… :</p>
<p>i don’t mind low income people getting some money left from fafsa b/c they really need it.</p>
<p>i do have a problem w/ students who drive bmw, live in their own houses, and have a lot of money under someone else’s name and still get financial aid. BTW, i do not get any financial aid. </p>
<p>As for COlin, it’s pretty lame that u keep trying to use the same argument since u’ve been told by many people that in real world no two applicants will ever be the same. what determine if u get the job is an interview and other factors are a lot more important.</p>
<p>As for transcripts. the most common practice for companies is when they are prepared to hire u, they will call ur previous employer to check if u left in good standing and also they make check to c if u obtained the degree that u said u did.</p>
<p>second, u did say in one of ur posts that u feel that students who got into top schools as fresh were more motivated. which many took offense to.</p>
<p>after 6 pages of posts, u still are trying to make the same arguments, so it appears that we are jsut wasting our time here.</p>
<p>I am starting my 2nd year at CCC. I’m studying just as much as I did in highschool yet my grades are way higher than they were back then. I never said people think highschool work is worth a lot… I said that it just shows that they were motivated back at that age… and most transfers were not (again always exceptions to this). CCC classes are extremeley more relaxed than HS classes besides the higher level math and science classes. GE classes are a joke at CCC. But then again, it just may be because i went to a highly ranked highschool, and now made a transition to an easier type of education.</p>
<p>Colin, you are coming off as very, very arrogant.</p>
<p>I disagree with you, but I think that you’re not terribly receptive to other people’s points and I’m not willing to continue arguing about this tonight.</p>
<p>I think that school, at any level, is what you make of it. It’s a huge generalization to say that GEs are a joke, and it’s a generalization to say that transfers (even qualifying it with “most”) aren’t motivated in high school.</p>
<p>okay, just to defend Colin, i’d like to say that you guys are much different than a lot of CCC students. You guys are actually motivated and know what you want to do with your lives while a lot of people i know that are at community college are wasting away, doing as poorly as they did in highschool. You know those people and there are A LOT more in CC’s than in four year universities. A big reason why my parents and i agreed for me to go to a four year was because they knew i was a lazy ■■■■■■■ and they would rather have me doing poorly at a university and getting my degree than hanging out at CC forever. I actually wanted to go to a CC to save money and to get a better shot at transferring. Luckily, i didn’t do so bad :)</p>
<p>I agree with hobo, people who are at CCC that are on this site aren’t like the rest. I’m talking about the general CC student. There is a reason why CC students are looked down upon… its because of all the students who attend them… there are always a few that are unlike the rest and are motivated to work hard and transfer. When I tell people I attend a CCC and plan on transfering, I constantly get looks of disapproval. The general public will always look down on CC students no matter what. It’s a shame for the motivated students who actually take advantage of the system and do well, but the majority of them don’t.</p>
<p>Hobo he is saying that all transfer students did not work as hard as four year students and thus do not deserve to get a job (and won’t get a job) over the four year student. Absolutely ridiculous but I guess since his mommy and daddy told him that it makes it true. LOL</p>
<p>I still think it is his parents that are making him have this self esteem problem. Oh well. It also sounds like you hang out with people that are snobs.</p>
<p>Hobo- I’m the first to say that my CC was filled to the brim with lazy and unmotivated students. However, most of those people didn’t even get an AA, let alone transfer to schools like UCLA and UCB. Since we’re talking about UC transfers, the lazy and unmotivated don’t really apply here.</p>
<p>I’m not arguing, I’m just pointing out that it’s different. We were talking about one sect of motivated UC transfers. Obviously including the lazy and unmotivated majority would skew this discussion a great deal.</p>
<p>Also if you look back at his other posts it shows how he always talks about how transfers are looked at in a bad light and this that and the other thing. Yet he chose to become a transfer student. hmmm…</p>
<p>I actually had a teacher in high school who thought very poorly of community college and who constantly made fun of our local CC. Said that everyone who went there were slackers who’d work in fast food and that’s why you need to do really well in high school, bc god forbid you wind up there. She loved me though and was skeptical when I asked her for a letter of rec for our honors program, and she was floored when I got into one of the most selective programs at UCLA with honors. </p>
<p>i remember my ap history teacher in hs telling us that we shouldn’t go straight from hs to uc and that we should go to a cc first since we’ll learn much more at a cc</p>
<p>can you imagine?!..a hs ap teacher recommending a cc over uc out of hs</p>
<p>my teacher’s reasoning was that the class size of lower division courses in a UC is so big that it’s always or mostly gonna be in a lecture hall where it’s mostly taught by ta (my friends attested that at la and berk)</p>
<p>on the other hands, a cc’s class size is much much smaller so the class is actaully taught by a professor and they’re much more helpful than they are at a uc</p>
<p>again, this is according to my hs ap teachers (one graduated from berk and other one graduated from irvine)</p>