<p>awakenedream: </p>
<p>UCLA has practiced this for many years. They let it be known to those at Orientation (for admitted students in the summer) and some students also have had their high school counselors review the application. It’s no big secret, and ends mystery about their admission policies.</p>
<p>ichiboy while I understand where you are coming from, I think you are totally wrong.</p>
<p>Every step of the way, in education, money helps ALOT. Show me any instance and I (you could too im sure) will prove the effectiveness of wealth.
School-tutoring
SATs etc-Classes, even affording books.
Wealth doesnt effect ECs as much but it still could. Difference between going to a summer program or not?</p>
<p>AA in terms of economic status makes FAR more sense than race. <– could be an equalizing force to the advantages mentioned above. But then again, its hard to determine for who and how much.</p>
<p>BTW I’m definitely not poor. I realized this when I saw/heard kids in my class being tutored. I wondered about those too who needed one but could not afford it. </p>
<p>Thankfully I do not fall into either categories. In all of my highschool so far, I had one hour of tutoring and that was a onetime thing.</p>
<p>ichiboy: I do think it’s fair that they award points for that. since my parents immigrated here from Mexico when I was 2 years old, we definitely aren’t doing to well in the money department. I couldn’t even afford to retake the SAT II. I had to use a fee waiver the first time I took them. Also, since they didn’t even go to high school,(because they both had to quit school and help their family out by getting jobs) they couldn’t even help me out with any of my homework in elementary school. Maybe you didn’t need your parents help, but I could’ve used it. They also don’t care about my grades. Academics aren’t important to them. I guess that’s just a culture thing. But I can see where you’re coming from. I’m biased, you’re biased.</p>
<p>I do see a lot of sense in what both of you are saying. Especially newpswahine, that’s very impressive that you were able to overcome all of that and turn yourself into a UC applicant. I can definently see how you were at a great disadvantage and its nice to hear a different perspective such as that. I permit you to go ahead and take one of my admission spots :P. I don’t know… I’m thinking something more like “hardships” in general would maybe help people like me a little more. I know this is beyond the point of this thread, but I just felt a need to voice myself out.</p>
<p>Where do you find your high school’s stanine?
Do people really take 40 more courses than required or is it what I think it is…a total of classes taken with 32 being the requried number. So if you take even one more class you get credit.</p>
<p>Does anyone really have the cut off numbers for these schools and when and where do the essays impact decision?</p>
<p>I think it’s a total of 40 or more classes. 71 classes seems kind of impossible.</p>
<p>newspwahine: since the SATII’s count twice as much as the SATI by UC policy, the SAT formula liklely looks like – SATI + SATII *2:</p>
<p>[1600 + (2400*2)] /2 = 3200 max possible points. </p>
<p>when they count ‘classes’ they really mean semesters.</p>
<p>I’m know that the SAT II are more important at other UCs, but on the website on the previous page it says to add them all up and multiply them by .8 for UCSD. I usto think they counted twice as much too.</p>
<p>what do u think the cut off is for ucsd’s BIOENIGNEERING major(compeitive)?</p>
<p>I think the SATll are counted twice in the formula to determine if you are eligible for UC’s in general. The SAT l and ll are counted once for the admission formula and are multiplied by .8 to get 80% of the five test total. I am curious how to find your high schools stanine which is an important part of the total point package.</p>
<p>The majority of us don’t go to high schools in the fourth or fifth quintile. That would be the bottom 40% of all schools in the nation.</p>
<p>so… by 40 courses beyond the minimum, do they mean 20 extra classes outside of the regular curriculum? that’s pretty crazy.</p>
<p>The Pathways site on the UC Office of the President [UCOP] website has a lot of interesting information regarding UC admissions/eligibility requirements, etc. You just have to do some creative searching sometimes to find exactly what you want, i.e.</p>
<p>A-G Course Requirements by high school (CA public & private high schools)
You can actually search the name of your California HS to see what courses qualify for the UC A-G course requirement:
<a href=“http://pathstat1.ucop.edu/ag/related_links/[/url]”>http://pathstat1.ucop.edu/ag/related_links/</a></p>
<p>UC Eligibility Issues (2002) - this page may be outdated, but it does provide some good info about general UC eligibility criteria.
<a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/expanding/new.htm[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/expanding/new.htm</a></p>
<p>There are other pages on the UCOP website that provide answers to most of everyone’s questions.</p>