The cited article (posts #89 & #96 above) indicates that the demand for additional monthly pay in excess of $1,400 was based on a survey of Zillow estimated rents in the area.
So what ? These rents have not recently spiked. Why not double-up or triple-up as well paid techies do in Silicon Valley ?
True, but UC grad/professional students only ‘pay’ OOS tuition for the first year. It’s extremely easy to gain residency for Grad – as opposed to undergrad – tuition purposes after 12 months instate. In fact, many departments/schools actually tell the Grad student that you are ‘expected’ to claim residency for Year 2+ (so they don’t have so much of a hit to their dept funding budget.)
@bluebayou : Great point.
I should have clarified my note by stating that permitting enrollment of more non-resident undergrads would be an additional method for UCs to raise revenue, in addition to raising resident tuition rate.
The simple truth:
Resident UC tuition is under-priced & housing in the coastal areas of California is unaffordable for most.
Today (March 5) is the call-to-action day. The organizers from all campuses have requested that students/faculty/staff stop all work today UC system-wide and protest. I don’t know how much support they’ll get with finals just around the corner for most of the campuses, but by the end of the day, we might see how supportive their campus communities really are to this issue.
Yup but that’s a big political problem.
No OOS’er wants to pay $60k for UC Merced; indeed, they want into Cal and UCLA. So, UC tried to hide to instate residents that ‘hey, we’ll just sell off spots to Cal and UCLA, and your kid can go to another UC; Merced is always open.’ The populace quickly saw their top-performing suburban kid was not getting into a flagship and went ballistic, and raised a ruckus with the local elected officials. One (more?) of them called for a state audit, which not surprisingly found:
As a result, a couple of years ago, UC capped non-resident enrollment at 18% per campus or the then existing levels (if over 18%) for the most popular campuses.
Back to this thread, perhaps UCSC needs to go on the OOS and International recruiting trail for undergrads. They could market their strong Eng & CS program, right on the outskirts of Silicon Valley.
It is my understanding that the local campus gets to keep some of the extra OOS tuition.
Well, now the UCs have another big problem.
Time for resident students & California politicians to face reality–or suffer the consequences.
Of course, there is another sure-fire way to raise additional revenue–just open up gambling casinos on all UC campuses.
or pot shops, which has been a huge crop in Santa Cruz County for decades. lol
[edited to correct for County]
What, we want to be like CHINA now?
(And have you counted how many Chinese students come to America? They don’t sneer at our educational system, that’s for sure.)
I think you’re on to something.
Also, we don’t have Mao Ze Dong Studies or Chairman Mao Thought or Political Education degrees. What’s useful in one culture may not be in another.
What if graduate students had to sign an ethics pledge in order to enroll in any graduate degree program ?
Would this curtail wildcat strikes in clear violation of their union contract ?
@katliamom re: your post #108 above.
Did you mean to write “on to” or did you intend to write just “on” ?
^^^ Touche, Publisher 
Well, pot consumption would explain why the grad students thought it was possible to be paid more without increasing tuition.
Some courses may be required to be taken for a letter grade, not passed / not-passed.
BINGO! CA hasn’t raised in-state tuition since 2017 and only once in the past 8 years, I believe.
Michigan’s in-state tuition is $16,000. In-state UC tuition is $14,000.
Michigan’s OOS tution is $51,000. UC’s OOS tuition is $44,000.
And CA has obviously a higher COL.
Here’s a good article about the academic labor market.
^^^ Nothing we haven’t read – and academics discussed over & over – for the past couple decades.
since this is about the lack of affordable housing in NorCal, thought the parody might give some a smile.
https://m.sfgate.com/sf-locals/article/satire-map-of-San-Francisco-development-15107849.php
I though the article was quite interesting and informative.
Regarding the Santa Cruz situation, are there any efforts from the professors making well into 6 figures to forfeit a portion of their pay for the TA’s?