I think all colleges write that they treat everyone the same but it is usually pretty fake. If, by chance, Princeton actually treats me as domestic, it will be a huge boost in chances.
Really? I donāt remember seeing that said on other websites, but I may not be looking at the same schools you are. Be interested to see links to others that say that.
I will point out that the fact that they say school abroad = international would disadvantage US citizens studying abroad if your assessment is correct, and Iād just find that a little surprising.
That said their CDS shows around 4% overall admit rate and 2% international. So you might say your chances are twice as good if regarded as domestic, but clearly either way, itās very low.
Since Princeton seems to be his first choice, I would Suggest that he SCEA there so that he can find out early on where he stands. He could still apply EA to UIUC and Georgia Tech EA, 2 other schools in which heās interested.
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Ok he kept mentioning Chicago so I thought it was on a near level.
I suppose he could do ED2 there too.
Just an FYI. The net price calculators are not always reliably correct for international students.
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I would def prefer MIT/Princeton over Uchicago. So now I am pretty stuck on this decision, both seem equal
Thatās fair. OP has another thread and Iāve addressed - the who assuredly - thatās an admit - will be under your budget.
Unless Penn State or Pitt consider OP in state for tuition purposes - my best guess is exactly - none.
@Cooked1 on one of your threads last year, it was suggested that you find out if you are indeed eligible for instate tuition status in Pennsylvania.
Did you ever do that?
Both Chicago and Princetonā¦and MIT are reach schools for allā¦given their very very very low acceptance rates, which are even lower for international students.
Usually true for international students living abroad, with non US income and assets.
For an international student living in the US, with parents working and earning here, and presumably having US assets - it should be fairly accurate.
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See OPās other thread:
Maybe. But the net price calculators also could include things like the Direct Loan (which this kid isnāt eligible for) and yes, I know some of these schools donāt package loans.
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I thought it was common knowledge that UChicago really likes their ED students while most of the extra early admits at Ivies were athletes, development admits, and legacies. Itās position as an āIvy backupā and recent commitment to play the ranking game has made it the only school in the US to have an ED 0 round - I canāt see a school doing that. Indeed, every (unofficial) source I could find seems to support that notion.
Another potential factor is that Princetonās need blind status will not take into account OPās ability to pay, whole UChicagoās need aware process will take that into account as an advantage.
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But wouldnāt this be a disadvantage as OP needs financial aid?
UChicago doesnāt release much information directly but there is agreement within the college consulting sites that they fill 60-70% of their class in their multiple ED rounds. No idea how they are getting at those numbers though.
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Thatās ED at Chicago, and it seems like weāre talking about EA at Chicago. Iām not sure EA is much of an advantage.
In fact, I think EA at UChicago is pretty much useless for unhooked applicants. Everyone I know who falls into that category has been deferred.
UChicago is very yield conscious, and if you apply EA when you could have applied ED, they know theyāre not your first choice.
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I thought it was common knowledge that UChicago really likes their ED stusents
Okay. And Iām asking what that ācommon knowledgeā is based on. Iām a data driven guy, so I want to see the data. āCommon knowledgeā can often persist for a long time after the basis for it has changed. Sometimes it was simply based on anecdotal information to begin with, which by itself is unreliable
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Chicago doesnāt publish detail by round of admission, by design. The only thing people have to go on are statements made by admin at orientation days, admissions sessions, and the like.
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UChicago likes to obscure the data, so Iāll offer you the data from my kidās HS, for the past six years.
ED admit rate: 27 percent (avg 1531/33 SAT/ACT)
EA admit rate: 3.88 percent (avg 1395/33) (only two accepted students)
RD admit rate: 3 percent (avg 1502/33)
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Oh, thatās a good idea. Our school does not have a lot of people applying to Chicago, so a small sample (16), and we had no ED applications. All 11 EA applications were denied, while 1 of 5 was admitted RD, so for this tiny sample RD actually had better outcomes.