@2022uchi , just curious as to why you conclude in post #51 that a defence of Chicago values in the long debate about those values as against ivy values means “having a chip on your shoulder”. Even if that was actually so, why do you believe that attitude could only be explained by having a child rejected by an ivy? Isn’t it possible to simply not like the ivy model, or at least not like it sufficiently to prefer it to the Chicago model? Many of the ivy crowd, God knows, do not like Chicago. From what I know of the people on this board who might be called Chicago boosters the motivation you suggest applies not at all. Surely you admit there could be actual reasons for preferring the culture and model of education of a school that is not HYSP. Or does doing that make one insufferable? Your moniker suggests you ought to be open at least to a debate.