Tell us more about the course description. It might sound like EE 110L.</p>
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Well, tell us about your work ethics, and whether the courses at your CC was ridiculously easy. I think you can handle the transition unless you’re a slacker or you don’t have good foundations in MAE. Just sign up for 4, and if it’s too much, drop one. You are about right on track to graduate in 4 years (maybe a little behind) with your schedule, so if you drop anything, you’ll have to take more than 4 per quarter or take additional quarters.</p>
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You can ask … I don’t know who. I know transfers who have taken Circuit Analysis I at their CC (DeAnza) and still had to take EE 100. Doesn’t make sense, but I guess it depends on your CC.</p>
<p>I’m coming from a semester system. I was told by my instructor that the CAI class will be the only one of its kind I’ll have to take as a Mechanical Engineering major. Right now we’re learning how to find the steady state response of circuits using Phasors. To be more detailed though, the course starts off with the basics – we reviewed what was taught in physics during our first week (namely Kirchoff’s Laws, basic V= IR eqn, circuit elements, etc), then we delved into current and voltage analysis due to independent sources, mesh current analysis, node voltage analysis, theorems such as superposition, source transformations, thevenin’s and norton’s theorems, equivalent norton/thevenin circuits, finding maximum power, analysis of the operational and ideal amplifiers, and then we continued with energy storage elements like capacitors and inductors.</p>
<p>The above overvies is basically what happened during the first half of the course. The latter half which is currently going on deals with the complete response of time dependent circuits. We’re analyzing first-order circuits, second order circuits with two storage elements, and right now we’re going through the sinusoidal steady state analysis of circuits, so, in short, using phasors to find the steady state response of various circuits. In fact we just finished that chapter last week. Next week we’ll delve into AC steady-state power ( we already started touching on that actually). The course continues with frequency response, laplace transform, fourier series and fourier transform, filter circuits, etc…</p>
<p>The lab component is simply an application of what was taught in lecture. The lab runs for about 3 hours a day, two days a week.</p>
<p>I took a similar class at my JC and was only given credit for EE 10. Unless it’s on ASSIST as a EE 100 equivalent or whatever, you’re going to have to submit a syllabus for evaluation.</p>
<p>I don’t consider myself a slacker. I mean, there’s always the stereotype that CC classes are very easy, but I don’t think this type of blanket statement applies to the engineering department at my school. Our engineering department works with the Engr. department at SJSU since many of their students come to my school to enroll in lower division classes that are way too expensive at their schools (sometimes due to scheduling conflicts). The faculty tries to make the class as demanding as possible, while also understanding that some of the students require time to digest what’s being taught. When I took my properties of materials class, I remember having to write 10-page reports for the entire 16 weeks, while at the same time having to worry about the lecture component and learning as much as is needed to learn in order to keep up or stay ahead in the class. There’s also the C++ programming class I took which was heavily involved. The final project required us to put together a ~60-page portfolio that consisted of a minimum 600 lines of code. We used classes, functions, arrays, and all that extra stuff to study the behavior of a storage element (how it charges and discharges over time using different sources)</p>
<p>I manage to try my best to study concisely while in school. I work on weekends and also at school during the weekdays, the extra time I have is used to study, study, and umm study. I try to get involved in a few things, but I don’t go overboard.</p>
<p>Obviously UCLA will bewa much more involved, but I’m sure if I pay attention during lectures, take good notes, work on problem sets, and learn to manage my time properly, I’ll be able to at least stay on track.</p>
<p>I’m only enrolled in 16 semester units right now, but that’s already a lot considering the classes I’m taking. Although, I must say that I don’t know the quarter-system equivalent of 16 units. How many units do engineering students 300-level and up, typically take over the length of a quarter?</p>
Yes, you’re right. My school is not even listed on that page.</p>
<p>If anything, I hope I’ll receive upper-div credits for taking the class. I don’t mind taking it again – I’ll essentially be killing two birds with a stone. One for the price of two.</p>
<p>I’m in a class that sounds like your (TheIcon) class to the T. The exact order and everything you described. And my course is listed on the above-mentioned website as equiv. to EL ENGR 110L. So, I would try and talk to someone at UCLA. I’m a recent admit to UCLA for AeroE so our paths are very similar, though I don’t remember if EE110L is on our list.</p>
<p>cesupro, I have the impression that you’re currently attending UCLA. If so, how was your transition from JC to UCLA? How did you adjust to the new environment, the work demands, and the student body. How much more did you have to put in?</p>
<p>Also, I’m scanning the MechE curriculum again, and I see that EE110L is a lab. Why is a course that comes with a lecture and lab component, only be credited for its lab?</p>
<p>I thought there was a quantum physics/modern physics requirement for MechE but I don’t see it listed (Physics 1D or 4D ).</p>
<p>TheIcon, sorry if I gave that impression. I’m pretty sure I’m in the same boat as you, finishing my spring semester at a JC, and considering UCLA for fall '08 (waiting to hear from Cal this wed). </p>
<p>And, regarding GrassPuppet: that sucks. Oh well.</p>
<p>I need to (re)take that circuits class anyways, my current professor is near the worst I have ever encountered.</p>
<p>If you had CS 31 in a quarter when Smallberg taught it, the format is not too different. Basically all problem solving and program analysis. It’s certainly a bit more challenging, but it’s not hard to finish early.</p>
That is the weakness in engineering department (not just MAE). My advisor told me that they are working on the curriculum to try to involve more modern theory (E&M, relativity, quantum computers, vibrations). Everything learned in the undergraduate curriculum is like theory from the 18th century … students need to learn something more modern!</p>
<p>If you’d like to take these courses on quantum, I think that you can sign up for classes in the physics department. I checked a while ago and I think they have the courses I mentioned above. It’s good to be flexible and learn new things, as the job field in the future is unpredictable and volatile. Especially if you are considering further degrees, it’s always good to expand your interests.</p>
<p>For anyone wondering how much work is expected in engineering courses at UCLA, here is a message from Steve Jacobsen, former Associate Dean.</p>
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<p>That means if you’re enrolled in 16 units, which is standard for the four course load in the engineering curriculum, you’re expected to work 48 hours per week on your readings, homework, projects and studying. That means you have 64 hours per week to study, do work, and be in class (around 10-11 hours daily assuming you take the seventh day off). Assuming you sleep a healthy 8 hours per day, you get 5 hours of free time assuming you don’t eat. You probably lose 120 minutes to meals, and 30 minutes to shower and groom yourself. Also probably 30 minutes in walking back and forth from class.</p>
<p>Net free time under these conditions is probably 2 hours. (academics M-Sat) I guess this is what they expect out of an average engineering undergraduate?</p>
<p>Maybe you should wait until you see an engineering counselor. They will be able to tell you whether your JC course is equivalent to an upper div course here. You can probably e-mail one of them now, so maybe you can take some summer courses (if you want). Then post back here about the unbelievable crap they told you. Then we can help you out.
*you can tell i’m not too fond of the counseling dept =/</p>
<p>I’ve seen a lot of weird crap happen to many transfers (including myself) in terms of getting credit for their engineering JC courses even though it was listed on the assist site.</p>
<p>I’ll find a way to send an email ASAP. On a side note, if anyone can provide me with the email address to a counselor from the engineering department at UCLa, that would be very nice.</p>
<p>Boelter, that’s amazing. If it’s that tense at UCLA I wonder what it’s like at CAL. Realistically, it’s very difficult to go long hours studying without taking a break. The information just doesn’t sink in as well, then fatigue sets in, eyes hurt, and hunger kicks in. Although, I must confess that it is very important for engineering students to do as much problem sets as possible. It’s certainly helped me tremendously with doing just fine in my classes.</p>