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<p>What are the benefits of joining Tau Beta Pi?</p>
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<p>Just to list a few…</p>
<p>Benefits for members:
-put on resume/graduate with chord
-meet other engineers from various disciplines who are at the top of their class
-bbq every fall + spring quarter
-access to a lot of resources…</p>
<p>Benefits for officers:
-access to the TBP room (great place to study or nap)
-develop close relationships with everyone on board
-invited to exclusive events (infosessions, dinners, etc.)
-a lot of fun events</p>
<p>I highly suggest everyone who joins TBP to run for an officer position. It’s a chance for us to get involved with academic student groups at school, and it’s actually a lot of fun.</p>
<p>When are you going to send me an invite ;D</p>
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<p>How does this schedule look for Spring 09? I’m a freshman ChemE.</p>
<p>Physics 1b - Whitten Jr or Gekelman
Chem 30a - Karim
Chem 30al - Henary
Physics 4al - Slater</p>
<p>Any thoughts on the professors?</p>
<p>How does summer quarter work? I want to take classes over summer but have no idea how the load over summer is? I think I want to take one engineering class, upper div, and two GEs… is that doable over summer? I’ll probably be commuting from about ~40 miles.</p>
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<p>You’ll be slightly busier than other engineering students at your level (assuming you don’t cheat).</p>
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It actually isn’t as good as you might think at the undergraduate level, but you will leave having learned good basic theory in key areas. There are lots of shortcomings in the UCLA engineering department, and within undergrad MAE, here are just a few: MATLAB instruction issue, not teaching Solidworks/CATIA until this quarter, repeated coursework, lack of interesting courses such as robotics, mechatronics, nanomechanics, lack of hands on projects … and the list can go on and on. If you want more hands on or lab work (esp. related to electrical engineering or machine shop work, then you will have to join student groups or take courses outside of MAE).</p>
<p>As for grades, it is very possible to get a 3.5+ in MAE. If you try your best, avoid cheating on homeworks, ask for help, attend office hours, read the book and understand the material contientiously, and submit work on time, you should get at least 3.4, no problem.</p>
<p>People who get lower than 3.0 just don’t put effort in their coursework, and hence their grades are low. Good thing at the undergraduate level, there are always ~15% of students who skip class or don’t know what’s going on and help pad grades.</p>
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<p>I’m not a ChemE major…but that looks really time consuming @_@</p>
<p>hey can someone give me advice on if i should go aerospace engineering or mechanical engineering? i checked both ucla and uci and uci’s mae programs share alot of classes in common (not to mention they also offer a double major) but ucla offers only 1 at a time and the courses are really different heh. so yea any advice on which i should go? or if someone has experience, which school’s engineering is better, ucla or uci? (ironic lol since i’m asking in the ucla section 
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<p>Mechanical is more general. It is a very general major. Look at the FE general exam, and you will see the topics covered are mostly what you’ll learn in ME. If you have no passion for aerospace, aircraft, or propulsion right now, chances are you won’t have too much of an interest in the field later. Go with mechanical in this case. Curious to know, why are you narrowing down to these two?</p>
<p>Looking at the UCI undergraduate course descriptions for MAE …</p>
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<p>lol to be honest i want to go into aerospace engineering (im pretty interested in it right now too haha) but i’ve been looking around on various websites and it seems mechanical engineers end up getting the same jobs as aerospace engineers + jobs that aerospace engineers aren’t qualified for XD so yea. i’m basically interested in these two because it seems interesting to be able to build things that can be driven around / sent into space (lolol as childish as that comes off). pretty much the only other science / engineering i ever considered apart from mae was computer science or computer engineering but yea i just wanna do mae right now.</p>
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<p>Does putting that you’re in TBP on your resume really help? I’ve heard it doesn’t. I don’t know, maybe I haven’t spoken with the right people. What are those other “resources” you speak of? Past midterms? Discounts? BJ party?</p>
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<p>a lot of companies (especially startups) send emails to the TBP mailing list since they are interested in recruiting students of the highest academic standing.</p>
<p>putting TBP on your resume only means you were the top 15/20% of your class. that may or not mean a lot to the employer. also, becoming an officer in tbp will demonstrate your leadership skills in an established national honor society.</p>
<p>I just had an interview last week and the interviewer was also a member of TBP. seemed to help me out since he already knew what TBP was. it was pretty good :).</p>
<p>and yes, resources include past tests</p>
<p>Maybe I’ve been talking to the wrong people because I’ve heard that most companies don’t care too much about student leadership or research experience. They seem to care more about your industry experience and your technical skills.</p>
<p>what kind of jobs are your friends interested in? if it involves software or hardware engineering then it would make sense that your technical skills are more important. however, consulting or managerial positions often require lots of leadership in addition to technical skills.</p>
<p>but that’s not really the point - being in tbp and putting it on your resume just shows you’re at the top of your class. the most important resources you get out of tbp are the connections and relations you make with other members/officers and the companies we have contact with. it’ll provide you a great opportunity to meet lots of recruiters through the info-sessions and other events we host. all the people i’ve met through TBP are amazing, and i’m really glad i’ve got to know them.</p>
<p>How hard is it for MAE students to land a full time job after graduation? And is it nessesary to have had an internship?</p>
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That’s good to hear, stick with Aerospace Engineering. When I think about it, if you are definitely going into the aerospace field, no doubt select Aerospace Engineering for any college you apply to. The coursework is more suited towards aero design and analysis at UCLA than some people will think. People who are Mechanical Engineers will not learn many (or even at all) of the aero terms while following the B.S ME curriculum. So in short, choose Aerospace Engineering.</p>
<p>In terms of UCI and UCLA, these are the two schools which are very similar in the Mechanical Engineering curriculum. Courses will be taken in thermodynamics, heat transfer, solid mechanics, controls, statics, strengths, fluids, etc. Anyone who is thinking about Mechanical Engineering at a UC, UCB and UCSD are the top ones.</p>
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<p>To add on to what MadeInChina posted, TBP will not get you “extra points” or extreme favor after it is put on the resume. The GPA on top of the resume should already speak for the academe of the student. What is more rewarding is the networking with fellow students, who are also in the top 15-20% of the class.</p>
<p>As MadeInChina also wrote, interviews could be helpful when you and the interviewer have something in common. It gives you something to talk about. TBP could be something … you can also share experiences while in TBP … it’s just networking with bright people which is rewarding.</p>
<p>For student leadership and research experience, they are a plus, but it depends on which company and which field. In general, companies are looking for people who have participated in student projects (whether in student organizations or course projects), and it is a plus if you have been a leader in any of them.</p>
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<p>It is hard to predict the current status for full time hires right now, but for sure, if you do not have internship or research experience, you will be at a huge disadvantage. Getting in a big company without any internship experience by the time you graduated will be a longshot.</p>
<p>Bruinview question! When it states that you may begin signing up for a specific interview slot on a certain day - does it begin at midnight? Thanks :]</p>