UCLA projected to beat Cal for fall 2006

<p>Ok, here is the truth about this CAL and UCLA BS. Cal, being the #1 public school in the nation is world reknowed for its spectacular research and top notch faculty. CAL, being the flagship of the UC campus.....IS the University of California (the other UC's just being extensions). In addition, 17 chemical elements were discovered @ CAL (including Californium, Seaborgium and Plutonium). CAL is also the first Univeristy in the world to have developed the cyclotron accelerator (With the help of late Professor Lawrence and Physics Professor Oppenheimer). CAL, is also the only university in the West that offers programs in Nuclear Engineering and Ocean Engineering. Also, the medical school for CAL (UCSF) is considered to be one of the finest medical schools in the country (surpassing Stanford Medical and UCLA Medical). To sum it up, you cannot compare CAL with UCLA on the terms of admission selectivity. Everyone knows that the "average joe" will apply to UCLA but not to CAL because of the extreme competitive environment known to be at CAL. While I do respect UCLA (mainly on its athletic accomplishments), I totally disagree with any comment that claims UCLA to be superior or on par with CAL in terms of academics and national rankings.</p>

<p>"the medical school for CAL (UCSF)"</p>

<p>Isn't UCSF a separate UC campus altogether?</p>



<p>Old News. </p>



<p>UCSF & CAl are totally different Schools.</p>

<p>This is the future Technology</p>

<p>CNSI is a research center run jointly by UCLA and UC Santa Barbara. CNSI was established in 2000 with $100 million from the State of California and an additional $250 million in federal research grants and industry funding. Its mission is to encourage university collaboration with industry and enable the rapid commercialization of discoveries in nanosystems.</p>

<p>CNSI members, who are on the faculty at UCLA and UCSB, have received numerous prestigious awards, including the Feynman Prize in Nanotechnology and hold memberships in several national science societies, including the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, the Royal Society of London, the Royal Academy of Engineering and the German Academy of Natural Sciences. </p>

<p>This is from Business week.</p>

<p>With all the hype about nanotechnology now swirling around Wall Street, you have no doubt already encountered some nanonewcomer with a catchy name like Nanogram, NanoOpto, Nanophase, NanoProducts, Nanosphere, or Technanogy.</p>

<p>More than 300 nano-whippersnappers in the U.S. and overseas are targeting what promises to be a new Industrial Revolution. All told, venture capitalists and corporate funds will probably plow $1 billion into nano investments this year, twice what they invested in 2000.</p>

<p>I can't believe you nerds are arguing over which is the better school. They're both equally elite. Each has pros and each has cons. UCLA has hotter girls, better weather, and a nicer geographic location. Cal has, well, they have stuff too. But the point is, you can't use a chart that states " All numbers are projections... blah blah blah", as a fact. It's a PROJECTION. Just because it has numbers does not make it necessarily true. If you've taken ANY basic entry level statistics class, you would know this. If you don't believe me, I will cite for you the abuse of statistics you people are using. Don't make me pull the car over! Cause I'll do it...</p>

<p>i'm pretty sure we all know berkeley is a "HYPSM" when it comes to graduate schools and also one of the top research universities in the world. </p>

<p>when it comes to undergrad selectivity though, UCLA has been catching up with berkeley. there were those days when most students would choose cal over UCLA. nowadays, people go "they're both equally good, choose the one that fits you better." i wouldn't be surprised to see the statistics fluctuate in favor of one or the other for the next few years. UCLA incoming c/o 2008 was the first class to have a lower admit % than cal (or at least that i know of). soon maybe the stats will be higher too.</p>



<p>Wrong. HYP are not that great. (S&M maybe)</p>

<p>H&Y are famous for professional schools .(B-S, L-S)</p>

<p>P has nothing (except Math maybe)</p>

<p>UCLA and Berkeley look for different things in the application. UCLA is more focused on test scores, and their system attributes points to different aspects of the app (as read by three different people) and Cla's has two readers (one primary one secondary), and make their decisoins accordingly. Also, many more people apply to UCLA than Berkeley. The greater number of applicants partially explains the lower admit percentage, the different admissions practices partially explain the higher stats. What's the yield rate for each (I don't know)?</p>

<p>the schools contained in HYPSM, whether or not they deserve it, are known as great. Whether or not they are, I wouldn't know, but they attract great students and are known by those that are aware of them as good. Sorry, coto.</p>

<p>never mind.</p>

The greater number of applicants partially explains the lower admit percentage


<p>Ding, ding, ding! Someone understands the basic fundamentals of statistics. I can't say I can say the same for some of you. And you guys applied to UCLA/Cal? For shame...</p>


<p><a href="http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=07671%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=07671&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>UCLA researchers detail the evolution of quantum dot imaging in the journal Science</p>

<p>The evolution over the last two decades of the nanocrystals known as quantum dots has seen the growth of this revolutionary new tool from electronic materials science to far-reaching biological applications that will allow researchers to study cell processes at the level of a single molecule and may result in new and better ways to diagnose and treat cancers. </p>

<p>The work outlined in Science is the first result of a new joint effort between UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center and the CNSI. The creation of the UCLA Cancer Nanotechnology Partnership signals a long-term commitment and investment into nanotechnology and its applications in cancer research, said Judith C. Gasson, cancer center director. </p>

<p>The work outlined in Science is the first result of a new joint effort between UCLA's Jonsson Cancer Center and the CNSI. The creation of the UCLA Cancer Nanotechnology Partnership signals a long-term commitment . The environment at UCLA makes it possible for researchers from diverse disciplines – physicists, cell biologists, chemists, immunologists - to work side by side.</p>

<p>Holy crap, CotoDeCasa IS Shi.takirimusume (stupid filter, I can't even type his name without it freaking out)!</p>

<p>Look guys, from 2003:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?4/13457%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?4/13457&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>He said the same thing for 2004. He's like the Jehovah's Witness of college rankings! Whenever his prediction for an earth shattering event doesn't pan out, he just vanishes from the radar a while, then reappears with a new date!</p>

<p>u guys have too much free time</p>


I had suspected as much... :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Coto.....is this the best thing free time activity you can think of? At age of 45, I would suggest that you should do something better than to prove UCLA is superior than CAL. They don't call CAL the #1 public school in the world for nothing. There must be a good reason behind it (research, patents, inventions, highly ranked departments etc). </p>

<p>Also, in regards to the Berkeley Medical School, UCSF was considered for a long time to be an extent of Berkeley medical education (until it became an independent school). Even today, CAL pre-med students have access to UCSF learning facilities . </p>

<p>Furthermore, Costo, I don't know how you can just shrug off all those scientific accomplishments as "old news". Discovering 17 chemical elements and the cyclotron are "major" historic scientific accomplishments (having a permanent affect on science). The nearby Berkeley LBNL (which employes CAL and world reknowed scientists) is responsible for the creation of the Atomic and Hydrogen Bombs (during WWII). Furthermore, 309 Gilman Hall is considered a "National Historic Monument". Berkeley also has more Noble Prize Winners than any UC in the system. Also, like I said before, Berkeley is considered the "University of California"....partly because it is the oldest UC campus....but mostly because it is the research powerhouse in the UC system....considered the "flagship" campus (particularly in science and engineering). </p>

<p>Therefore, Costo, I don't know how or why you consider UCLA "superior" to CAL.....maybe the inferior complexity? I don't bash UCLA....i think it is a great school......it was found however as a So-CAL extension to UC Berkeley. The color, mascot and even the style of writing "UCLA" are very similar to that of CAL.</p>

<p>IMO, Coto is probably being paid by UCLA...</p>

<p>Maybe 4 dollars per hour.</p>

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<p>UCSF & CAl are totally different Schools</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ucsf.edu/about_ucsf/pastpresent.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ucsf.edu/about_ucsf/pastpresent.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>University of California, San Francisco is a leading university that consistently defines health care worldwide by conducting advanced biomedical research, educating graduate students in life sciences and providing complex patient care. </p>

<p>The roots of this public health sciences university, dedicated to saving lives and improving health, can be traced in San Francisco to the 1864 establishment of the Toland Medical College, which nine years later would become the Medical Department of a then fledgling University of California across the Bay. </p>

<p>The University's foundation was laid when leaders foresaw the campus as more than a medical school, and they decided to combine a few scattered colleges — including the colleges of pharmacy and dentistry — on land donated by San Francisco Mayor Adolph Sutro just above Golden Gate Park. In 1907, the campus built its own hospital and a clinics building that would serve the city, and eventually people from all over the world. The original nucleus of schools grew to include the School of Nursing in 1939 and a Graduate Division in 1961.</p>



<p>I agree. Berkeley WAS the Powerhouse.
(better than Harvard & Stanford)</p>

<p>"Berkeley is the University of the past."</p>

<p>It's so obvious and claer. You're right!</p>