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<p>[Long</a> Duk Dong: Last of the Hollywood Stereotypes? : NPR](<a href=“http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88591800]Long”>Long Duk Dong: Last of the Hollywood Stereotypes? : NPR)</p>
<p>Fab,
I noticed that your location is in Georgia and wonder if this has something to do with how angry you are. I am not Asian, so i obviously can’t say how Asians should feel, but I did grow up in SoCal and know about girls like Ms. Wallace. Everyone (all nationalities) make fun of girls like her. I mean come on–the boobs popping out all over the place was the first sign she had uhm…no clue! Here this poor thing is trying to “out” those hoards of Asians at UCLA but alas only is able to make herself the butt of endless jokes.</p>
<p>Death threats–I am sure they are not from UCLA Asian students (who probably feel sorry for her because she is so pathetic). I think the parodies some Asians have made of this girl shows they are not threatened by this bimbo but simply amazed at the level of ignorance.</p>
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<p>I don’t think it is regional as my older cousins who grew up in California during the 60’s till the 80’s heard such taunts…though I heard it did taper off greatly by the '90s from my younger cousins. </p>
<p>As a NYC resident, I experienced this firsthand as an elementary/junior high school kid in the 1980’s and older Asian-American friends who grew up there in the '50’s-'70s experiences weren’t much different. </p>
<p>Considering most teachers back then were either ineffectual/overwhelmed or in junior high…didn’t care…only way it finally stopped was giving the bullies a bloodied nose or two and/or a hard kick to the groin. This BS stopped altogether when I arrived at my public magnet high school because most students were too busy with heavy academic loads and the school happened to be over 50% Asian/Asian-American when I was there (Heard it is hitting 70% Asian/Asian American now).</p>
<p>People, please: it is “hordes,”, not “hoardes” or “hoards.” :)</p>
<p>As I said upthread, I fully agree that she mostly comes across as a bimbo rather than as a dangerously malign racist.</p>
<p>Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.</p>
<p>PS I’m 57 and I never recall hearing the “chin chong” rhyme that we are all supposed to know is terribly insulting.</p>
<p>Consolation, are you Asian? I am nearly 60, and Asian, and I do recall this term being thrown around school yards. If you aren’t Asian that would explain why you wouldn’t have been aware. Otherwise, I would have to guess that perhaps you were just lucky.</p>
<p>It was stupid for her to say what she did and even more stupid for her to record herself on video and post it on youtube.</p>
<p>But it was also stupid for her to get threats and her to feel the need to withdraw from school.</p>
<p>Maybe she’s not racist, but she has bigoted/prejudiced beliefs.</p>
<p>Just b/c one has friends of a particular background doesn’t necessarily prevent one from being a racist or holding racist beliefs.</p>
<p>Heck, there are Asians, Jews, blacks, etc. who “self-hate” and have racist beliefs towards their own kind.</p>
<p>Anyway, I find it a bit humorous that she compared her “American” upbringing to that of Asians when the vast majority of posters on threads about the Japanese earthquake/Tsunami have commented on how peaceful and orderly the Japanese have been in contrast to the reaction during Hurrican Katrina.</p>
<p>People shouldn’t be making sweeping judgments on Americans due to Hurricane Katrina and neither should she have based on “her experiences.”</p>
<p>I mean, really, my experience (of current UCLA students) is watching her make some not really intelligent remarks in a not so impressive manner (speech/grammar); that doesn’t mean I should dismiss all or even the majority of UCLA students as being of her ilk.</p>
<p>No, beawinner, I am not Asian. But I also grew up in a place where there were VERY few Asians, so maybe that accounts for not having heard it. </p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong: I am not minimizing the fact that it is an insult. I am just saying that there really are those of us who never heard it for whom the bimbo’s imitation doesn’t hold such associations.</p>
<p>I mean, I’m half Irish. My relatives are not a collection of superstitious drunks–think lawyers, engineers, and chemists instead–and we never ate corned beef and cabbage. :)</p>
<p>It’s not that bad. Though much maligned for it, she doesn’t make fun of tsunami victims. She makes a very valid point actually – if you’re going down your phone book, you might as well step outside; besides, a library is no place for a breakdown in case you find out something bad has happened. There are some offensive parts. However, I assure you 99% of college students have said worse at some point in their lives. The only difference is she made a video and uploaded it to YouTube.</p>
<p>Scrutinize the posts in this very thread, and I’m sure you’ll find much cause for objection. Such as the “white trash” comments. Or the many subtle insinuations that we can read between the lines, but don’t, because it’s Alexandra Wallace who’s on the sacrificial altar right now.</p>
<p>A big case in point is whoever was praising the David So video. Now that was truly offensive.</p>
<p>The comments were stupid and racist. They reflect her true character, so we should not be surprised that when faced with criticism for making the remarks she took the cowards way out and left school. At least her leaving has contributed to making UCLA a better place.</p>
<p>What this UCLA student did is similar to what NYC radiot station Hot 97 did during the aftermath of the Indonesian quake and tsunami (the “Tsunami Song”), albeit not nearly as bad.</p>
<p>[POV</a> - The Fire Next Time . Case Studies: What Happens When Shock Jocks Go Too Far? | PBS](<a href=“http://www.pbs.org/pov/thefirenexttime/special_casestudies_1.php]POV”>http://www.pbs.org/pov/thefirenexttime/special_casestudies_1.php)</p>
<p>In that case, it took a while before public pressure eventually got those responsible fired, but even so, the outcry was more about making mockery of the dead than the insults/death threat thrown at Asians (primarily the Chinese).</p>
<p>Along the same lines, when Korean-Am ran for mayor of Edison, NJ, radio jocks “The Jersey Boys”) </p>
<p>[POV</a> - The Fire Next Time . Case Studies: What Happens When Shock Jocks Go Too Far? | PBS](<a href=“http://www.pbs.org/pov/thefirenexttime/special_casestudies_2.php]POV”>http://www.pbs.org/pov/thefirenexttime/special_casestudies_2.php)</p>
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<p>[Oh</a> No They Didn’t! - Is this another case of Miss Jones??](<a href=“http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/1765652.html]Oh”>http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/1765652.html)</p>
<p>Of course, after a lame non-apology apology, neither of the Jersey Boys was fired and one shortly thereafter got a “promotion” to WFAN in NYC.</p>
<p>Contrast this to what happened to Imus when he made those stupid remarks about the Rutger’s women’s BB team.</p>
<p>Jun Choi did go on to win the mayorship of Edison, but in his failed bid for relection, the same race-baed attacks happened (such as saying that he cared more about North Korea than for the US).</p>
<p>Basically, the repercussions of making racist comments or mocking Asians is significantly less than doing so for other groups such as blacks, Jews and probably even homosexuals these days (the whole “model minority” myth probably plays a part).</p>
<p>When Shaquille O’Neal did his “Ching Chong” act in reference to Yao Ming, absolutely nothing happened.</p>
<p>Otoh, when “Fuzzy” Zoeller made his remarks about Tiger, he not only had to drop out of a no. tournaments, he lost most of his sponsors and his career has never been the same.</p>
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<p>Uhh, any of those stereotypes race-based?</p>
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<p>Unfortunately, this stereotyoe is alive and well in Hollywood.</p>
<p>Things have gotten a little better (since when I was a kid), more so for Asian women than for Asian men, but even so, the progress has been slower than that for gay and lesbians in the media.</p>
<p>Take the Hollywood Asian sex worker stereotype for instance; instead of just being poor immigrants being forced into the industry, it now includes Ivy League educated prostitutes (“Melrose Place”; Kelly Hu in “In Case of Emergency”; kinda funny how Jonathan Silverman has co-starred w/ more Asian-Am actresses than pretty much any Asian-Am actor).</p>
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<p>Dozens over the last several years. Mostly in the College Admissions forum.</p>
<p>@cormy3-The David So video is for pure comedy. He has a disclaimer in the info section of his video as well as disclaimer’s through out the video. Now far as what the YouTube commenters say is a whole different entire ball game.</p>
<p>@k&s-The Jersey Boys transcript is just sad. I read the whole transcript. But alas, to some people being American is being WASP. Doesn’t matter if you’re a X-American who’s first generation or third, doesn’t matter if your ancestory goes back to the slave ships, and it doesn’t matter if you’re apart of the First Nations and your people were here before everybody else. At the end of the day, some folks just won’t see you that way.</p>
<p>@epiphany-LOOK! I FOUND YOU!! MY EPIPHANY!!! 
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<p>Agree, SisterV, David So’s video was properly labeled with a disclaimer. Personally, I loved it. As for A Wallace’s video, she is only now claiming that she thought she was being funny after the firestorm of protest. Clearly, if that was her intent, she fails as a comedienne. In addition, she sounds even worse by coming out too late to say she was trying to make a joke. No one is buying that story . . . or are they?</p>
<p>Uuh, it’s a slow day, so here goes. BCEagle, is it all about money and comfort for you? Sounds like it from what I gather from your comment. I used to think when I was young and very broke that if I just had money, that would be nirvana. Well, let’s just say, my life now is filled with material comfort, but somehow that’s not enough. Am I being too demanding? For me what I would like, and I think what all of us as humans would like regardless of our circumstances is respect. Clearly, whenever we are faced with disrespect no matter the source or reason, we become upset. I think I’ve said on this forum elsewhere that people assume an Asian face is connected to a foreigner, and in America, that’s a negative association. I think until that mistaken perception is gone, I won’t be satisfied.</p>
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<p>Some do; many just ignore it.</p>
<p>You can’t control what others think, do or say. But you can control
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<p>You’re certainly welcome to feel offended as often as you want.</p>
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<p>Yes, 
I was going to comment earlier on your “taking my name in vain.”</p>
<p>David So’s video, though very funny, is actually quite sexist. It would’ve been just as hilarious without the slut-shaming. I, for one, was more amused by his mannerisms and support of Asian stereotypes - many of which are true; my grandparents and uncle, for instance, do grow crops in their backyard, and my parents did the same a few years back - than by his criticism of Wallace’s dress and appearance.</p>
<p>I also did not know about the “ching chog” song as a child or teenager. I must say reading this thread reminds me how brilliant I thought the movie “Crash” was when I first saw it. There is prejudice in every race- none are exempt, it’s just about point of view.</p>
<p>interesting. i didn’t see this so video, but here in california, lots of mexicans grow crops in their backyards…and also raise chickens. as a matter of fact, quite a few black folks do too (except for the chickens). it’s funny how we don’t know these things about each other as americans because we’re such a segregated nation for the most part.</p>
<p>I grew up in one Asian country and subsequently worked in the Asian headquarters of a US multinational for some 10-15 years in another, and spent significant amounts of time in various countries there. It’s one thing that Asians born and brought up in the US complain about this woman as they could very well be less racist than her. </p>
<p>But it is so hypocritical for anyone who was raised there and still has strong ties there to highlight her behavior and ignore far more substantial and material racism amongst themselves. I still believe the dominant view (if you consider peoples from all over the world) is that racism is normal, should be in the open, and desirable. </p>
<p>This woman’s main crime, as people have stated earlier, was to broadcast her rant the way she did, especially given her race and location.</p>