<p>Treverp, UCSD’s school of engineering is ranked 12th in the nation by USNWR, while UCSC is ranked 86th. Thats not even close. UCSD known for having a great engineering program. However, like everyone else says, go where you think you’ll be happy. You dont want to spend 2 years of your life miserable. But if your going to base your decision on program strength there is no question about which school is better in engineering.</p>
<p>Treverp, I ll tell you something, the name of the school DOES matter. That is a fact if we like it or not, so go for what you like but your resume will be looked at better if you are graduated from a school that has a better name. That is the reality. </p>
<p>Let me tell one more thing, I went to a community college and my sister goes to UCI now. She has the same exact Chemistry book that I had, and she takes the same material, and her quizzes are much easier than the ones I had, but still I took my class in a community college. hope you got the point. </p>
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<p>Hope that helps and good luck !</p>
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<p>Does anyone know when they’ll release how much your financial aid package will be?</p>
<p>I’d call into the financial aid office Raliem, but it should be right after you submit your FAFSA. </p>
<p>As far as housing is concerned, what are alternatives for transfers besides the Village?</p>
<p>Treverp, to be honest, don’t listen anyone here. Go where you want to go, especially &rew. This guys sounds so Asian that I am ashamed of it sometimes how many Asians scorn schools they don’t think it’s reputable. Here’s the thing Treverp, if you feel UCSC is a good match for YOUR personality, then you should definitely go. If it meets your budget, you should go. I know first hand myself when I chose reputation at UC Davis over UCR when I was freshmen year I regretted every moment of going to UC Davis.</p>
<p>Also, go because you love it. Just because UCSD has a better reputation doesn’t mean it’s the best. It’s almost like going to work. If everyone doesn’t like you at your work, what’s the point of going? It’ll be just miserable. Go because you have a reason whether UCR, UCSC or UCSD. It does not matter where you go because the content of every school is the same. As for chemistry, yeah… some schools like UC Irvine in their chemistry classes are a bit easier than ones at UCSD but remember, it’s based on how the entire class did on a curve. As I’ve talked to many employers, they want to see skill… honestly if you were an employer, would you hire someone who have superior grades or actually the skills? Grades aren’t everything that measures your ability to do well in the work force… believe me… I knew people who went to UCSD who were miserable and likewise at UCSC. There was a recent article in the Los Angeles Times stating how subjective letter grades are especially in college. Gee, I know of someone’s girlfriend who went to UCLA last year and came out working at Starbucks because her grades stunk. </p>
<p>As for grad school, if that’s something you are also planning to do… you need those A’s. A stronger competition doesn’t mean you will do better. Going to UCSD means a stronger competition because you are competing with those people that score high which can jeopardize your overall grade, which then leads to some effect on your graduate admissions. Go to the school YOU think that best qualifies for you and don’t ask anyone here on the internet WHERE you should go… because ultimately they’re not really your friends here and simply, grad schools really evaluate you in the context of your school more than everywhere. Hell, I knew people who graduated from UCR who made it to Harvard Law, Loma Linda Physical Therapy, USC Medical School and all that because they were able to do better than those around them. So whatever floats and is best for you, you should pursue it because that will led to your success. Your success is in not in others or for others but it lies in you.</p>
<p>atse1910, for someone who is telling treverp to not listen to anyone on here, you sure had alot to say. This forum is for people who are seeking advice from others who have either been in their position or are currently in their position. I hate people who come on here and tell people seeking advice to stop listening to other people on here, and to decide for themselves. Yes, ultimately they will make their own decisions, but they are obviously on this forum to get other peoples opinion. If you dont want to listen to what others have to say then get the hell off these forums and go ask your mommy what you should do.</p>
<p>USMC0311, you’re right, but I think atse1910 is correct and making a great point, and one that too many people on these forums forget way too often.</p>
<p>atse1910 started the post with “dont listen to anyone on here” and then didnt start jabbing for 2 paragraphs. Basically saying “dont listen to anyone…except me, listen to me.”</p>
<p>Treverp, if you dont care about prestige you may as well go to Cal State Bakersfield with a bunch of 2.5’s and walk out of there with a 4.0. Plus its much cheaper than a UC.</p>
<p>does anyone know if there’s a link to check the status of transcripts received by the admission office?! I can’t find it on myapplication.ucsd.edu!</p>
<p>I know, I get it, that’s why I said you were right. But I still believe the substance of atse1910’s post was correct, apart from what you quoted. I’m only talking about the comparative prestige between UCs. Walking out of CSUBakersfield with a 4.0 is not better than walking out of a UC with a 3.5 , but walking out of UCSC with a 4.0 would be better than walking out of UCBerkeley with a 3.2, know what I mean? It’s a fact, due to all the evidence available, that UCs are more rigorous universities than the CSUs, and for good reason. UCs were designed to be the top level of education in CA, while CSUs were designed to be mid-level, between the CCCs and the UCs. However, between UCs, the difference in educational quality is a much, much smaller gap than most people on this forum have been led to believe, based on different stereotypes/perceptions (some fair, most unfair) about the students, and their rankings are based mostly on their graduate programs. </p>
<p><strong>If you do well at either UCSC or UCSD, you WILL get into a good graduate school.</strong> </p>
<p>For that reason, and in my opinion, it’s more important to consider where you’ll be for the next few years. I believe that if you’re not happy where you are, you will not do well, or as well, in school. Besides, the entire UC system, if I recall correctly, are top 100 schools, which is pretty damned good considering the number of universities here in the US. And, in the real world, it’s not about the grades, it’s about your skills, and that’s why what you take away from the experience is what really matters, and prestige should not be the sole, or even largest consideration. You do yourself, and your future, a grave disservice if prestige is the only thing you base your decision on.</p>
<p>[edit] And, I don’t know about you, anyone who tries to invoke the prestige of their university, instead of standing on their own laurels and their own body of work, is a D-bag and somebody I would really think twice about hiring, but that’s just me.</p>
<p>empire, I totally agree with you.</p>
<p>Prez, Thanks i’ll do just that. You can try looking for out of campus housing close to UCSD or in the MTS bus route to UCSD. Just have to find the right place to look for them.</p>
<p>atse1910, you cannot say “Do not listen to anybody here and especially &rew” you are not his parents. This is a forum and everybody can share, whethwer you like what they say or not, agree or not, they still have the right to SHARE !!!</p>
<p>“This guys sounds so Asian that I am ashamed of it sometimes how many Asians scorn schools they don’t think it’s reputable.” –> Really ? that sounds so racist !!! </p>
<p>I did not say that he MUST go to UCSD. What I said “go for what you like” and I just added my advice. Again, reputation DOES matter … I don’t hate a specific school, I went to UCR and I loved it but I felt that this is not the place where I wanna complete my education. This is my opinion and you can agree or disagree !!</p>
<p>Totally agree with empire … finally it is all about how you do in the school you choose !</p>
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<p>I’m pretty sure that isn’t even close to true.</p>
<p>It is not all about prestige. It is about the quality of the education your going to get. You say walking out of UCSC with a 4.0 is better than walking out of Cal with a 3.2? I dont know about that. A 3.2 is almost a B+ average at the number one public university in the nation. I’d take that over a 4.0 at UCSC anyday. </p>
<p>It is ■■■■■■■■ to choose a school just because it will be easier to get good grades. If my son (whos 13 years old) told me he was going to UCR vs UCLA because it would be easier for him to maintain a high GPA, i’d slap the s**t out of him. </p>
<p>Dont be afraid of a challenge, it will only make you rise up to it.</p>
<p>You’ve misunderstood me. I’m not saying I don’t want a challenge. That’s ridiculous, and you’re reading what you want to read into my last post. I never said I’m going to UCSC because “it will be easier to get good grades”, especially since I don’t buy the premise that it’ll be substantially easier to get good grades at UCSC. That’s an assumption you made based on probably 3rd, 4th, or 5th-hand accounts of mostly unfair stereotypes of a student body you’ve probably never met, which is also kind of ■■■■■■■■. </p>
<p>What I meant to make clear, which I neglected to, was that you have to be comfortable where you’re living for school. If you’re not happy where you’re going to be for the next few years for school, you WILL do worse in your coursework. If you’re happy where you are, then you WILL do better in school. For me, I will be happy in Santa Cruz, and unhappy in San Diego, based on my experiences in both places. That won’t be the same for you, but for that reason, I will do much better in Santa Cruz than I would in SD, not because of whatever perceived “inferiority” you see in their educational quality, but because I will be happy there and more likely to do well because of it (and, yes, I am extremely motivated, but I’m only human). </p>
<p>My main point is that, like I said in my previous post, I just don’t believe that the gap between UCs in undergrad education is as large as what many of the people on this site have been led to believe from the rankings you guys are obsessed with (which are based largely on the graduate programs). UCSC focuses on their undergrad programs more than their grad programs when compared to the other UCs, and some might argue that that has had a detrimental effect on the perception of their grad programs in rankings. But I’m not a graduate student, I’m an undergrad. That’s what UCSC was designed to do, focus on undergrad studies. </p>
<p>My most important point is that if you do well at a UC, you WILL get into a good graduate program. </p>
<p>With that in mind, when deciding between UCs, deciding where you want to live can be more important that considerations of prestige between UCs. You’re still graduating from the TOP public university system in America. UCSC, UCSD, or UCLA - do well in your coursework, and you will find opportunity thanks to your time in the UC system.</p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>For one, school does matter for engineers. How do I know? My father - at some point in his EE career - had to interview new employees. Where you received your degrees at is certainly a big deal. Of course, you can also be a dumbass from UCSD who managed a degree through cheating, and be less knowledgeable at your field than a hard-working CSU student. But the employer wouldn’t actually know that, until you are at work. I know that it sounds so superficial, but that’s the way it is. Just based on looking at a resume alone, I’m certain that my father would pick a Carnegie Mellon graduate over a San Jose State one, for example. Skills won’t be seen until later. To get in and to look competitive, you must choose the school with the better reputation.</p>
<p>However, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t choose UCSD over UCSC. You only have so many chances to be an undergrad student, and if you don’t choose to go where you’re most satisfied, then you’ll probably spend the rest of your time in regret. Make a decision where you don’t feel like you’re missing out, but rather, doing the right thing for you.</p>
<p>Okay I’m done here. Have fun at UCSC empirescrumble. Thanks for the different perspective. Everyone has their own reasons for choosing a school. I’m sure we all gave what’s his face multiple perspectives on choosing a school. Maybe he/she can get something out of our rants and make a good choice. Goodnight everyone, I got reading to do.</p>
<p>Shyuan:</p>
<p>“You only have so many chances to be an undergrad student, and if you don’t choose to go where you’re most satisfied, then you’ll probably spend the rest of your time in regret. Make a decision where you don’t feel like you’re missing out, but rather, doing the right thing for you.”</p>
<p>This is basically what I’m saying. I’m just trying to give some reasoning to back it up.</p>
<p>USMC0311, I think empire doesn’t really mean the exact same case 4.0 at UCSC and 3.2 at UCB. However, what he meant is you can’t say you go to the best school in the nation and you get C’s and B’s just because you think a C in the best school is better than an A in any other school has a lower ranking. But rankings and reputation matter, because if they don’t we wouldn’t find the acceptance rate at a school like UCLA 21.7% and 78.3% at UCR. Why so many people want to get in UCLA and UCB, when they can get in a school like UCR or UCM much easier? aren’t they all UC’s ? THINK about it.</p>