Undocumented immigrant story

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<p>Now that I think about it, I’ll bet moving to Cambridge, Massachusetts was a much bigger culture shock than moving from sunny Southern California to Mexico ever would be. He has no previous “ties” to Massachusetts either, while his parents are from Mexico, so there are likely to be relatives there.</p>

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<p>Taxes can be filed using ITIN. <a href=“Individual Taxpayer Identification Number | Internal Revenue Service”>http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/General-ITIN-Information&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p>I dont know the numbers of undocumented kids who are getting accepted to Medical Schools, I would however believe its nowhere near the amount of American Citizens and that’s how it should be. The anomalies that happen, I support.</p>

<p>UCSF is a premiere Med School, and their ADCOM obviously saw something in this kid from the qualified applicants they received.</p>

<p>If there are some among us that are upset whether its personal or just overall anger, just gotta let it go. He is in at UCSF and will be there for the next four years or more, like it or not.</p>

<p>Last I checked, a toddler cannot articulate to his guardians/parents to take him back to where he was born when he had no knowledge of how he got here. </p>

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Like there aren’t other qualified poor American citizens who could use those scholarships and who will be able to actually work when they graduate.</p>

<p>I’m more incensed by UCSF admitting an illegal alien into medical school this year. That is state tax money being used for someone who will not be able to work as a doctor in this country when he graduates. It is a zero sum game. Some American citizen lost a very valuable spot to benefit someone who is here illegally. Crazy.</p>

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<p>Yes, I was annoyed by that illegal-goes-to-med-school story as well. Yes, he did take an American’s spot.</p>

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I was unaware that a government ID was not required for those under 18 when travelling domestically.
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<p>That is very scary. My older son has only recently started looking more his age. When he graduated from college, people thought he was 16…instead of 21.</p>

<p>School ID’s should not be acceptable. Too easy to forge. </p>

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<p>Yes, absolutely. Which is why there is no excuse for illegal immigrants to not pay taxes.</p>

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<p>ITIN numbers have been associated with fraud schemes.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.wthr.com/story/19241488/inspector-general-calls-irs-problems-shocking-and-disappointing”>http://www.wthr.com/story/19241488/inspector-general-calls-irs-problems-shocking-and-disappointing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>My kids have also been dragged to a life outside their home country by no “fault” of their own. They’ve spent more years living outside the US than in it. They will be unable to attend college in the country I am presently working. I repatriated them back to the US. </p>

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<p>Of course, the actual situation on the ground is irrelevant to some:
<a href=“http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/u-s-medical-schools-urged-to-increase-enrollment-of-undocumented-immigrants”>http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/u-s-medical-schools-urged-to-increase-enrollment-of-undocumented-immigrants&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Sylvan,
So is UCLA going to <em>require</em> it’s undocumented students to become primary care physicians? How will they do that? It seems like a tenuous premise. </p>

<p>Also, there doesn’t seem to be a dearth of med school applicants now. Are spaces going unfilled? If not, I don’t see how encouraging undocumented applicants will increase the physician population, unless more spots are created. </p>

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<p>Students don’t take away spots from others. They are either offered a seat or not. </p>

<p>The student was among the qualified California residents UCSF accepted. </p>

<p><a href=“http://meded.ucsf.edu/admissions/successful-applicant-profile-class-2018”>http://meded.ucsf.edu/admissions/successful-applicant-profile-class-2018&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>From the link on generating more primary care doctors:</p>

<p>“And studies have shown that many of these potential medical students are underrepresented minorities who are highly likely to specialize in primary care and who feel a deep commitment to return to and serve underserved, low-income communities.”</p>

<p>This is what I have an issue with! “Highly likely” is a wishy-washy term. As long as they are not bound by any contractual obligation, they are as highly likely to pursue something else. If we do want more PCPs in these under served areas, we have to guarantee that the graduate who was allowed to remain in the US and study medicine here ends up where we want them to end. </p>

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paper by researchers at the UCLA Center for the Study of Latino Health and Culture urges medical schools to do more to increase their enrollment of undocumented immigrants seeking access to the medical professions
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<p>Oh please.</p>

<p>@learninginprog‌ </p>

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<p>The student was among the qualified California residents UCSF accepted.</p>

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<p>NO one was saying that he didn’t have the stats/qualifications. </p>

<p>When a med school interviews an applicant, the school has already determined that the student is qualified for a seat at their med school…yet, the school still has to down-select because there limited seats. So, yes, that student is sitting in a seat that a qualified domestic student could have gotten. </p>

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<p>@mom2collegekids From a down-select, I assume you mean filtering from an initial process- MCAT/GPA/Geography. You may be the only person I have seen reference this term within the medical realms. </p>

<p>Can you link to Data where UCSF filters to these layers to which you mentioned.</p>

<p>My point is, the kid has been accepted, obviously UCSF saw him as a great addition in the 78% Cal resident acceptance class of 2018. I wish him the best. </p>

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<p>@learninginprog‌
What are you asking?</p>

<p>EVERY SOM down-selects to a group that they will interview (which can be about 10% of applicants). Those selected to interview have all been determined to be qualified for that med school. Then a further down-selection occurs and acceptances are offered. This illegal alien may have had amazing stats, but he took a seat that could have (should have) gone to a domestic student.</p>

<p>There is nothing unique about the med school app process. This is what SOMs do. Med school app process is not a mystery. </p>

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<p>Do you think this student would have been accepted to medical school in Thailand?</p>

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<p>Thailand? What the…?</p>

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<p>The med student, Jirayut Latthivongskorn, was born in Thailand.</p>

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<p>If Thailand wanted him as a doctor, I’m sure they’d admit him. But why would they want to do that, when they can get him educated for free in the US?</p>

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<p>I don’t think agree with the comment the one that was accepted to UCSF didn’t take any spot away. Yes there are only limited spots, so if he was not accepted to UCSF, the spot would have given to another student. In my definition that is a take away spot.</p>

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<p>Question: Are undocumented physicians entitled to receive Medicare/Medicaid dollars?</p>