Unfair URM acceptance

[Mr_Payne]

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Mr Payne, I think you are a very sick person. I also believe you have a problem with critical reading and have to read sentences point by point before you understand.

Cool.</p>

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I said black immigrant get scores that should get them into Harvard and that is why they got in.

I agree with this and never said otherwise.</p>

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What I am trying to say- I have to spell it out for you- is that not every black student gets into top school through AA.

I agree with this and never said otherwise. Looks like maybe you should work on your critical reading skills?</p>

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I would assume you are Asian, Mr Payne (whites from my experience are not really sympathetic towards the plight of Asians especially Asian males) and I do concede that Asian have a higher standard.

I don’t care about race. I care about standards and what is right.</p>

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But just curious do you attend a top school- I really want to know, because you are talking about Harvard as if you actually go to Harvard.

No, I was too busy paying for school to consider privates.</p>

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If you do fine and then you probably know more than I do about the quality of minorities there.

You don’t get it. I don’t trust things I see myself because the sample size is far too low to get decent data quality.</p>

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The source that the majority of black student immigrant get scores that get them into top school is because my school’s black population is made up of like 60% immigrant population and I actually know this people.

Umm. Your <em>anecdotes</em> are your source. Wow.</p>

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your opinions are made from what you think.

My opinions are formed from data. I think a substantial portion of the URMs at select institutions benefited from their race (ie: if they weren’t URM, they wouldn’t have gotten in). If it was 1% I would still be arguing that it is wrong.</p>

<p>Do I have concrete numbers for this, nope. This is the sort of information that college admissions do not want to give away. However, it’s generally accepted that AA exists and to argue otherwise puts you in the distinct minority. </p>

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You keep saying I am making anecdotes which are irrelevant. But I could also say that affirmative action was a myth- which common sense indicates the contrary- since I have actually not seen any concrete evidence and probably 90% of people arguing here have never been on the admission board to see how affirmative action works.

Then you are wrong.</p>

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So to be sincere Mr Payne everything you have said from the beginning because it lacks any concrete evidence is irrelevant.

Considering that I’m arguing values primarily I don’t really see any need to put up evidence.</p>