Same question. Esp regarding online classes. Says faculty to student ratio is 16:1 but have heard alot about online classes - esp in biz school
I know UF is your #1. What do you know about online classes?
Yes, speaking to you as an in-state NC resident with three children who met the UNC stats and were still ALL waitlisted (2022, 2023, and now 2024) - top five students in our school have also been waitlisted every year - I can tell you that it is not as you think! But I can understand your frustration - we have lived it 3 years in a row as NC taxpayers with good students that meet the GPA average and exceed the ACT scores. NC does not have ANY other TOP publics except NC State (where all three were accepted but did/will not go), which is not in the top 50. But, we are happy where they ended eventually. My daughter was waitlisted at UNC but was accepted to and now goes to Emory (she was accepted regular decision which the odds are way lower than in-state UNC-CH), my son spent a year abroad and then transferred into UNC Chapel Hill as a sophomore, and I have one applying now that was also waitlisted. No one seems to get off the waitlist, so we are not hoping for that. There are too many good candidates who apply test optional. With test-optional for us in-staters and rural counties getting a big boost, those of us who live near UNC-CH are kind of stuck. If your child has their heart set on UF they should transfer next year as my son, who did have his heart set on UNC-CH did and had no issues with attending as a sophomore. I truly feel your pain - I was so upset and hurt by our state showing us no love as were my kiddos. The in-state acceptance rate leaves 65-70% of in-staters being rejected or waitlisted, and it is usually only the best students who are encouraged to apply since it is not a free application for very many, so it is a self-selected, very competitive bunch of candidates. I suspect it is the same for FL residents and UF.
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I suggest looking up classes on the registrar to see what is offered in your major. My S24 plans to major in business and the number of business prerequisites and required courses that are only offered online is a big turn off for him. But it varies by major.
S24 was accepted to UF and to UGA, but most likely will choose to attend South Carolina Honors College because it will provide a small cohort and small classes within a big school environment. But other kids donāt mind the online classes or the huge lectures and would instead choose UF, either for prestige or other factors.
If possible, touring schools and talking to students can help with these questions
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You can look at the registrar online and it will show classes offered in current and past semesters, showing whether it was offered in person or online, and showing class size caps for online. When I looked at business prerequisites and required courses, there were many that were only offered online. I have not researched other majors. This issue definitely will be a factor in my S24s decision.
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What is the source of your data? The latest common data set shows UF at 10.06% of the undergraduate population being out of state. So the idea that UF is overrun with OOS students just isnāt supported by any facts. As others have pointed out itās more likely the high population and large number of qualified students within Florida that make admissions so competitive for residents. And I donāt think dropping the OOS percent below 10 percent is the solutionā¦colleges (especially respected national universities like UF) need a little geographic diversity in the student population or they risk becoming too insular.
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UGA is a great school and donāt give up on Wisconsin! Just my opinion, but Iāve seen all of the schools on your list and liked UW-Madison the most. Best college town in the country and accepted student stats are identical to UF. Now there is the cold weather thingā¦but I know kids from Southern CA who absolutely love the place!
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anyone know anything about the collaborative program between Santa Fe and UF. Are you able to rush at UF ? my child got accepted into the santa fe engineering and then transitions into UF after 3 semesters
Did anyone get into the music program? During our audition they kept saying they would send out a letter in the mail that would most definitely arrive before the Friday admission decision. We got in to UF and had applied with the music major but no letter. Wondering if USPS is just slow.
I understand the cap is across all schools. UFās Common Data Set, āPercentages of first-time, first-year degree-seeking students and degree-seeking undergraduates enrolled in Fall 2022 who fit the following categories: Percent who are from out of state (exclude international/nonresidents from the numerator and denominator). Undergraduates 10.06%.ā
UNCās Common Data Set says 14%. You asked for UF to āadopt the same hard stops that North Carolina has in placeā and the UNC Board of Governors just voted to raise their OOS cap from 18% to 25%.
UF is not being āoverrunā by OOS and NC isnāt āprotectingā anything. Itās the opposite of what you said and I personally feel like UF is getting it right. There are multiple reasons to accept top OOS talent. That could be a thread of its own.
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https://www.eng.ufl.edu/students/gesf/gesf-faqs/
Iām not very knowledgeable about this program. Iām basing my reply on these FAQs. Since your child would not be considered a UF student until 2nd semester, they would not be eligible to rush until at least 2nd semester. Also, they would not be eligible for on campus housing the first year.
I could be wrong, but I think in-state students are mainly competing against other in-state students (particularly those students in their school or county). So I think if an in-state student does not get in, itās not because of OOS applicants; but more due to the competition within the studentās own school/county. In my state of Virginia, I think they limit OOS applicants to 25-30%.
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my daughter got into both UF and UGA (last year). toured both on one trip but chose UGA- I think she just got a better vibe from the social scene when she went out with kids from her high school, and had a really bad tour guide at UF. it wasnāt the online classes at UF that turned her away. UGA just felt more comfortable, and maybe less intense.
I agree that this is a common comparison. my daughter wasnāt going to let rankings or prestige be the deciding factor.
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my daughter got rejected to UF and got into UGA and ABSOLUTELY LOVES UGA-BEST SCHOOL!
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Many kids who get into both UF and UGA tend to choose UGA after touring both schools. UF has too much hype and I hear many of the classes are online and poor advising.
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When you say āintenseā - do you mean that UF seems more cutthroat/competitive? I have heard that reputation before but I wonder if it is mainly seen in certain majors like pre-med?
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Except your kidās SAT is average even for the other 11 Florida public college, so why the obsession with getting into UF. Great resume otherwise, but Iām confused as to why she was entitled to a spot over the other at least 50K equally or maybe better qualified instate kids that did not get in.
Weāre instate and I see no issue with the relatively small percentage of OOS admits. It cannot be a bad thing to have kids from different parts of the country and the world grow and figure out life together.
My daughter was here a few years ago with similar SAT to yours. She applied to 7 schools and UF was the only no, and we moved on. Sheās a senior wrapping up her biomedical engineering degree at FSU and has had the time of her life there. Granted, we didnāt expect to get in and she certainly couldnāt care less even back then.
Life goes on, and your child will be fine wherever she ends up.
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no idea. this is just from my daughter and is based on just a few kids she knows. I donāt think she meant it academically. and honestly she had tough decisions to make and just needed reasons to go with her gut and pick UGA.
My D24 got Pathways to Georgia Tech with
SAT 1490
UW 4.0
W 4.61
STEM/space industry internship
Legacy
Officer in multiple clubs
Etc.
She was pretty upset about it as this triggered the āwhat if UF says noā fear, but she is breathing easy this morning.
I am good with this, even if it did sting that she didnāt get admitted to Tech outright. States should protect their in-state students the way Tech and UGA do.
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Yepā¦and Florida will continue to do a great job of protecting in state studentsā¦which they currently do better than many other states. Holding the OOS undergrad percent at UF to 10% ensures top in state talent stays home while also allowing a small percent of great OOS talent to round out the student population.
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