I love reading all of your perspective!! Maybe we will cross paths once our kids decide!!! I’m too into all of this. I find it all so interesting.
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Agreed
It still depends on the school and each one’s TO history. For long time TO schools there’s no pressure to submit. Wrt BC I would expect they go to test required for class of 2026.
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I think the topic of whether to submit a 1450-1490 at Michigan is an interesting one. Assuming Liberal Arts, seems like you 100% submit it if in state, but how about for out-of-state?
I’d always submit a 1450, to every school, for every major, whether in-state or OOS.
Why? Because it’s a strong score better than 96% of test takers.
I’ve no idea how colleges treat score strength, but if they consider a submitted score of 1450 negatively, while being neutral to being TO, this is crazy to me.
Not an expert advice, just thinking emotionally and logically.
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It’s basically a 33-to low 34 on the concordance charts so I think that should be fine. Just easier for me to remember. Lol.
Are students evaluated for admissions by a central office or does the application go to each school for decisions. Trying to figure out if a deferred student will be compared to other students from same HS if they are applying to different schools at Michigan . Thanks
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How much weight is given to mid-year grades? My daughter took 3 AP classes, 1 Honors class, plus Creative Writing. She is on track to finish with all As (maybe one B). She also submitted her LOCI last week.
They want to make sure she is getting ready for college and not slacking. Many students with lots of APs they want to make sure they can handle it. So to me it does have weight. Especially if she’s doing well. They want kids that can take the APs but also do well in them.
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Michigan does not explicitly say how they use the mid year report.
How do you decide whether to admit a postponed applicant?
We will consider all applicants within the context of the larger applicant pool who apply by the Feb. 1 application deadline. Each application receives multiple comprehensive reviews, focusing on the quality of academic preparation in high school, grades, scores on the ACT and/or SAT (if provided), personal characteristics and attributes, responses to the short answer and essay questions, and recommendations from high school counselors and teachers.
Just making sure, there was nowhere we were supposed to go upload those grades? They were uploaded into the common app. Is that where Michigan grabs it? Thanks.
I believe your school has to send them.
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I believe you are not able to see if they received the mid year report on their portal.
You are able to see the date the counselor uploaded them into the Common App and if/when the colleges downloaded them.
But mid-year grades report is not acknowledged on the Michigan portal - at least, not yet.
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Wondering if anyone has any insight on this
You are compared to your school and why they have your school report. The AO will know your school. You get reviewed a few times and then they narrow it down to fit per your major.
Somewhat separate from this particular OPs question:
I always cringe when i hear so much faith in the AO knowing your school part.
Granted there are likely a large number of schools they are familiar with, but i can’t help but believe there is an overwhelmingly larger number of schools that they have no experience reviewing.
And, which may or may not present the school or its students (i.e. play the admissions game) as well as more competent and better-funded/staffed “feeder” schools.
I know it’s the system we have, but I still cringe.
Is this true for the direct admit programs/different programs? What if your student is applying to Education or COE and everyone else from the same school is applying LSA? Do they all get reviewed together then go to the program for a second review?
My son applied to Ross EA OOS and was deferred. He had a 1560 SAT, 10 APs, 4.0 UW, 5.03 W GPA, and many EC activities. However, he was the only one from his school to apply to the University of Michigan this year and we don’t know of any applicants in previous years either. How do you think the AO was able to compare him to his school and do you think his high school could have hurt him in the admissions process?
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Edited post with 2024 numbers:
In 2024, there were 10,827 Ross BBA applicants Ross accepted 840 apps for an enrolled class of around 500 freshman.
So, the acceptance rate is about 8% and then layer on the fact that there’s in-state vs. OOS apps (52% instate enrolled) and then representation from around the country and internationals.
Bottom line. OOS Ross BBA acceptance is very difficult.
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Prior to this cycle, students had to apply first to LSA to then get a review for Ross. Since they didn’t have to pick either/or, it is very likely many students added Ross, as they had nothing to lose, having already been accepted. With Ross now being direct admit, I suspect there will be lower numbers applying direct to Ross and more students will go LSA if they are on the fence or think their odds are better.
I also understood that Ross doesn’t admit 50% in-state? Could be wrong on this, but thought there wasn’t a mandate to have approximately half in-state for each school within the University, provided overall the numbers shake out.
Thanks in advance for your insight.