If things continue the way they appear to be heading, “slightly greater” would be on the low end of the range.
Waitlist is used to fill holes in a university’s desired student population mix. At this point, stats have little to do with decisions to offer attendance.
Definitely any admissions office worth its salt is already discussing (internally) how they handle this mess.
The research universities have already been threatened with huge cuts in funding, now they are facing revenue losses from foreign upperclassman/grad student expulsions, plus likely lower new student enrollment due to slower/more restrictive foreign student visa processing.
In Michigan’s case, as with other states unis, their revenue situation is not going to be solved by State funding increases. State funding will be needed to deal with tariff impacts on the state’s economy, not to mention anticipated federal spending cuts affecting a whole host of social programs.
This year, waitlists will be more important than usual to universities, to say the least.
So, looking at a handful of recent Common Data Sets, Michigan typically has around 300-ish nonresident alien freshmen, which doesn’t sound like a lot.
However, there are about 2600 degree-seeking internationals in total, implying there are a number of international transfer students. Am I understanding that correctly, that Michigan accepts quite a few international transfers, >300 annually? That is unexpected. Alternatively, perhaps internationals spend more than 4 yrs as undergraduates.
Anyway, if only half of the typical number (300) of international freshmen enroll and secure visas, that would still only be 150 more kids to admit from the waitlist. To me, that wouldn’t sound like a massive increase compared to the thousands on the waitlist and potential 1,000 who might get accepted off the waitlist. For an extra 150 kids, the waitlist acceptance rate would go from something like 5% to 6%. Is my thinking correct?
The US government is expelling both grad and undergrad students, it remains to be seen how far they will go. At some point, the university will have to either cut services and/or replace the revenue associated with those expelled. Presumably, filling empty seats with OOS students will be a preferred solution (even if a larger than normal 1st year class is required to do so).
It appears that, in addition, new foreign student visas will be slowed and/or further restricted.
I consider this doc (posted earlier) to be the source doc regarding international students & employees at Michigan:
I just wanted to say to those still worried about financial aid…You still have time! I am OOS and just received another scholarship today after receiving my financial aid package in March. I believe they are still awarding scholarships and grants! With this scholarship, I have a full ride to University of Michigan that covers tuition, room & board, and other fees! Good Luck!
We just returned from Campus Day, which was 8:00 am - 3:00 pm yesterday, including a “Michigan Learning Community Fair” and also 90 minutes with the school or college your student is attending (mine is OOO, attending Ross). The morning schedule included sessions on financial aid, housing, student life at Michigan (with a student panel) and a walking tour, followed by lunch in South Quad and a visit to one of the dorm rooms in South. As noted, the afternoon was arranged by school or college. From the morning session, we didn’t learn much about U of M that we didn’t already know (but it was a lot of fun, and yes, they made everyone sing the Victors), but the Ross-session was really helpful, with a discussion of the Ross curriculum, presentation by a Ross professor (AI in business), networking time for the students and finally, a tour of the building. A few highlights of the amenities include the classroom layout and acoustics (with three screens projecting the same image so each student can clearly see the material from whichever seat they choose (+ they record each class so you can rewatch later)), of course the winter garden, filled with energy, natural light and plenty of seating for collaboration and socializing, the reservable study rooms, lockers (for rent - $15/semester) the Tozzi Center, which is a state-of-the-art electronic trading floor and e-commerce lab, the Och Fitness Center (with towel service) for Ross and law students (I believe $150 per semester), the Seigle Cafe (not on the meal plan) and ofc the in-house Starbucks. We also learned that Ross classes are only held M-Th, and many Fridays they host visitors offering informative talks and lectures, information fairs and recruiting events. The Ross students were full of energy and pride, and SO impressive. Prospective students who were not yet 100% committed when walking in seemed to be 100% convinced when walking out. If anyone wants more information feel free to p/m me.
Sounds like your experience mirrored ours from last year (CoE and LSA Honors). Our kids were blessed to have some great choices. The UMich revisit day made the choice easy in the end.
Follow-up because a few have messaged me about whether Ross or UM shared admissions statistics.
Other than the opening session when someone noted that there were 109,000+ first year applications, no one offered statistics about % admitted/waitlisted/denied or % in-state vs. OOS. The first speaker at the afternoon Ross-specific session was from admissions and she did not share any statistics (and no one asked). I suspect Dr. Rideout will post admissions statistics in July after they close the waitlist. They did have in-state Ross students stand and then OOS and international students stand, and it did seem skewed toward in-state students, but then again, it could have been that more in-state students were able to attend Campus Day. There were several OOS students from California, and the farthest traveled was from Nicaragua!
We are going back to regular scheduled programming just for Michigan RD now. If you would like to start a separate thread on this subject that would be great but this isn’t singular to Michigan. Yes, it’s an issue and every school will have to deal with it and it’s an important topic. Just not for the Michigan RD thread. Thx.
Appreciate your patience, just trying to help OOS waitlisters understand that this unusual year brings with it some potential upside… as they wait out the dearth of “regular scheduled programming”.
So, possibly also a year where a few extra waitlisters will have an opportunity, due to anticipated economic downturn triggering extra thought about cost versus value.
For example,
The point is not about whether one school is better or provides more value…. It is the belief that more people will be seriously considering the topic in this environment. And, any resulting decrease in “yield” is incremental waitlist opportunity… especially at the higher price end of the COA spectrum, like Michigan.
Does anyone know if it would be worth contacting the Office of Admissions or the Financial Aid office to see if they would be willing to provide any merit scholarships? Currently, Ross has given no financial aid or scholarships.