@VardaanMehra Have you considered applying to Canadian business programs?
Yes Dunboyne. Applying to UBC, Western and Simon fraser.
Queen’s is very good, too.
Overall for Business UMinn is significantly superior to UF, but there are a couple of programs within business in which UF excels.
Torveaux, I’m specifically looking at general business or management information systems as perspective specializations. Which university out of the two would be better academically for these programs?
Dunboyne, Queens is good, but I had to choose between Queens and Western as my 2nd choice and picked Western because of reasons discussed in another thread.
Due to irrationally complicated redtape and other problems unique to internationals, it’s better for an international student who wants to major in business to be in a large US city at the moment (hopefully things will become sane again in the near future). Life will be easier for OP if s/he studies in a big city with major businesses unafraid of managing CPT’s, hence UMN-Twin Cities would win over UF.
Another pro in favor of UMN Twin Cities is that Minnesota is actually increasing funding to its universities.
I wouldn’t recommend Illinois for the opposite reason (state budget and near bankruptcy + funding cuts.)
Note: some people prefer dry, frigid cold with sun and blue skies, to torrid humidity, especially when there’s no easy access to water/beaches like in Gainesville. While UF is a far better university, USF beats UF for location in my opinion. However, 6 months of the year it’ll be easier to live in Florida than in Minnesota.
Crescent Beach and Saint Augustine are about a one and a half hour drive from Gainesville. That is pretty easy access to a great beach and a great beach town.
Also, UMN is in the process of increasing OOS tuition from from the low $20,000 range to $35,000 per year. International tuition, which is already nearly equal to UF’s, will likely rise significantly as well.
Haha, us Gator’s love our “torrid” humidity and our time in Gainesville, it’s a great college town. However, some folks do prefer a more urban experience over a college town.
Lots of water sports near Gainesville. This weekend we spent some time at Lake Wauburg at a Family event with my daughter.
http://recsports.ufl.edu/outdoors-adventure/lake-wauburg
Tubing on the Ichetucknee River is also popular.
http://recsports.ufl.edu/events/tubing-ichetucknee-river
BTW, UF and UMN have about the same number of international students, but UF’s are mostly grad students (in 2015, UF had about 1,800 on OPT).
EDIT: PS: I don’t recommend swimming in Lake Alice (on campus)…nope…not recommended…
^I agree Zinhead, but internationals don’t have cars, so they have to find rides (most assume we have railways going everywhere like in the rest of the developed world and there always needs to be an explanation that in the US, the car is king.) And there’s paperwork for internationals who want to have a driving license, too (was near impossible after 9/11, some restrictions were lifted a few years back but still not the obvious thing it is for residents.) But all in all I’d say, as far as weather and location for general purpose, UF wins. For internationals in business majors who want internships, though, studies show being in a big city helps.
Guys I’ve listed Minnesota at the moment, but people are recccomending Michigan state as well. How do they stack up?
It’s good. Less cosmopolitan city than the Twin Cities, weather equally terrible as MN and no comparison to Florida. academically, pretty good.
Direct admission to UMn business is quite competitive.
Both have strong business schools. U of M is located in a very urban setting. U of Florida is located in a median size city (by US standard). Weather is quite different, as anyone can imagine. Because I had lived in Minnesota for 2 years, I have a bias favoring U of M. It is a great city and very friendly toward international students (I was one of them). Surely, U of Florida has a good community as well, along with some great football and parties. Well, both are very solid.
Lol! I’m so confused. Can someone please tell me that one is just better than the other.
My parameters;Ranking, reputation, campus, location, employability and weather. Based on these, which one comes out on top between Florida, Minnesota and Michigan state.
None.
Ranking: UF as a whole, but UMN Carlson is highly ranked too, so probably a wash specifically for business
Reputation: similar in their respective region
Campus: depends on what you like
Location: same thing
Employability: UMN
Weather: UF
MSU has all the disadvantages of UF and UMN, BUT it is generous with merit aid.
UF grads are very employable.
^ my remark is to be understood in the specific context of internationals working on 12-month OPT.
(UF graduates are highly employable if they’re American citizens or permanent residents).
Don’t particularly require merit aid.
I think it’s fair to assume it’s easier for students, international or not, to find employment/internships in the TC area, than Gainesville.
However, UF likely has MORE internationals working on 12-month OPTs, but they are predominately grad students and not undergraduates. Keeping in mind the difference between CPT (which is done before you earn your degree) and OPT (which is usually done after graduation).
UM-TC has 5,527 International students, of which 2,701 are grad students.
UF has 4,811 International students, of which 3,960 are grad students.