University of Tennessee in Knoxville vs. Bates College

@Sue22 I’m leaning toward Bates

Bates offered you a full ride too. The $1800 would be to pay for books, pizza, transportation, clothes… And you can control those costs (rent books, buy at thrift stores, attend all the free food events and free films, free everything on the Bates campus). You wouldn’t have to pay $1,800 to Bates, that’s money they want you to keep in mind for personal expenses.

I’d personally pick Bates because the opportunities such an elite college offers are life changing. Their connections and alumni network are strong throughout the Eastern seaboard, Boston, New York, DC. You’ll be surrounded by peers who come from all over, you’ll have small, interactive classes with professors who care about you, will know you, and will thus be able to write strong recommendation letters for internships.
Have you been to Bates to visit? They may fly you in so you can get a sense of the place. It’s pretty impressive - not for nothing its part of the little ivy group.

@Gpa348 I don’t know if they recruit on campus or not, but I read on Wall Street Oasis that people from Bates gravitate toward private equity, consulting, and a few other things that I can’t remember. Check out that site.

It sounds like you want to go to Bates. Having read plenty about it on this site, it sounds to me like a beautiful school with happy, positive vibes and very good academics and academic support.

You can work a summer job so you can have some spending and travel money.

If you can manage to make a few grand after taxes, that ought to be plennnnnty for pizza and movies and an occasional date, and to travel home a couple of times.

If Bates offered to pay for your revisit, go to that event! These are 2 vastly different options. I would pick Bates, but I also love the LAC experience for undergraduate students (and like this school in particular ).

Hey everyone!

How hard would it be to break into Wall St.? I want to work in investment management. So, I’m looking for a job at a firm like BlackRock or Blackstone or D.E. Shaw.

It’d be easier from Bates than from UTK, but … don’t make it your life goal. Or, if you do, acquire the habitus, and stay fit/athletic (squash, crew, boxing + weightlifting, more so than golf).

@MYOS1634 why do you recommend that?

@Sue22 can you pm me?

Because IB is as much about the trappings of a certain social class and the markers of being a winner as about quantitative prowess, relentless efficiency. Being fit and athletic, an extrovert, agreeable can help - especially since good health and strength are not only projected as signals but also necessary to withstand the punishing pace imposed to you. behaviors and trappings from “Bro culture” (also called “toxic masculinity”) can also help, depending on where you stand and where you land.

@MYOS1634 Yeah, how hard is it to get on a sports team? I’m looking into basketball. Do you have to be recruited to get a spot?

You don’t have to be on a team. You can just use the gym every day and join an intramural team (that’s a “just join” team). College-level sports teams require years of practice and skills, even at D3 level.

@MYOS1634 how hard is it to break into management consulting from Bates?

i think the absolute no-brainer option here is that you should attend bates. that financial aid package is amazing. utk is incredibly homogenous in terms of its race, socioeconomic, and political backgrounds. i did not like utk when i visited, and i still don’t like it to this day. (i’ve visited multiple times because so, so many of my old friends from high school attend, and my sister is a student.) bates has one of the best economic programs in the country when it comes to liberal arts colleges (though i’m not sure if that’s the path you think you want to follow in college since you didn’t specify).

@kalons I am majoring in Econ

okay, then yeah, choose bates, lmao.

Am I missing something?

The tuition, fees, room and board at Bates is $69,900 and you received a grant for $65,900.

So your contribution to pay direct billed costs is $4,000.

This can be from loans or summer earnings or both.

The work study income will have to be earned during the semester, that can be used for spending money.

You will still need money for books, travel and maybe health insurance, if Bates won’t accept your current coverage or your current insurance won’t cover you outside of TN.

@mommdc, other than the insurance question I think you have it right. Another way to look at the math is that the college estimates the total COA, including travel, personal items, and books and supplies to be $71,450. They’ve awarded the OP a grant of $65,950, leaving $5,500. Of that $5,500, $2,000 is expected to come from loans, $1,800 from summer work or savings, and $1,700 from work study. According to the Bates website,

If the OP make more that $1,800 over the summer, chooses to take out more than $2,000 in loans, or works more during the year they’ll have more to spend. Or they can be frugal and stay within the FA guidelines.

@Gpa348

You have the opportunity to go to a top LAC in the northeast for a song.

My opinion…go to college for the education. Your career aspirations could change ten times between now and when you graduate.

Bates is a top LAC, small classes, really strong alum network. Great place.

If you want to go to UTK, fine…go there.

But please…stop making this about you career choice to go into some kind of banking on Wall Street. You can do that from either school.

@Sue22 I’m honestly scared about winter… I’ve never been exposed to that kind of weather. What should I do to get over my anxiety?