No, no. What’s heinous is the midwestern tradition of cutting pizzas into squares as opposed to pie-shaped wedges. When I’m president, that will be outlawed.
No Pizzagirl, I think that’s more of a microaggression against pizza in general. The California thing is specifically targeting NY pizza. That’s what makes it a cultural issue.
Yeah, well, the East Coast was settled before the Northwest Territories, so we need to remain true to the original culture of pizza in the U.S.
If Lower Slobbovians appear white, then anyone can do as they like with the polar bear dish. Just don’t dare call it sashimi.
Can we talk about bagels?
Are we approaching a consensus, at least with food, that it’s not objectionable if the result is either (a) a really good approximation of the real thing or (b) something entirely different from the real thing, deliberately?
I used to work for a company that owned a frozen bagel brand and was looking to expand it nationally, and got to “tag along” as they were introduced into the godforsaken parts of this country where bagels were unfamiliar (which blew my mind, but whatever). Poor deprived souls.
I think it’s interesting to note that there’s both objection to cultural appropriation (how dare you people touch my [insert my authentic cuisine]) and cultural stereotyping – a la it’s Black Heritage Day and the cafeteria serves collard greens, it’s Cinco de Mayo and the cafeteria serves tacos and the servers wear sombreros and mariachi music plays in the background (how dare you people assume that because I’m Mexican, all I eat is tacos). These two ideas seem to conflict in my mind – either everyone needs to stay within the boundaries of their “home” culture, or how dare you assume that all I am is my home culture, like I’m some cartoon version.
Philadelphia Cheese Steaks - How dare other places make these with Filet Mignon and brie.
It needs to be meat scraps and cheese whiz. If the cheese isn’t iridescent orange it’s not a philly cheese steak.
After all the cheese steak was invented as native street food, for blue collar lunches. How dare it be appropriated and made over for high class diners who have no idea of the cultural and class structures. All cheese steaks should be served with historical lesson and a test at the end.
A sandwich made with filet mignon and brie might be delicious, but it isn’t a Philadelphia Cheesesteak. I guess it could be somebody’s “take” on a Philadelphia Cheesesteak–which is one way we get new recipes.
@blankmind, saw a story about two NY guys living in California trying to make NY pizza and couldn’t do it. So they ordered all their ingredients from NY. Didn’t work and they were stumped. They tested the water and realized that was the difference. They have learned to make their California water like NY water and they were pleased with the results.
It’s science. The story below isn’t the same as I told above but similar.
“A sandwich made with filet mignon and brie might be delicious, but it isn’t a Philadelphia Cheesesteak. I guess it could be somebody’s “take” on a Philadelphia Cheesesteak–which is one way we get new recipes.”
Who owns the patent on the expression Philadelphia cheesesteak?
“It needs to be meat scraps and cheese whiz. If the cheese isn’t iridescent orange it’s not a philly cheese steak.”
See, I grew up in Philly, and never, ever, ever saw or heard of Cheez Whiz on a Philly cheesesteak. It was always some kind of white cheese. And trust me we were authentic Philadelphians!!
Two words: California roll…
Who’s appropriating whom?
Californian japaneses appropriating the name California, and/or white people appropriating sushi Maybe both
OMG! (Appropriated from millenials,) California rolls are just heinous!
No, the answer is (c) every cook–especially every good cook–has their own take on everything and that’s the way it should be. Some are more authentic than others, some are more successful than others. Some people are just lousy cooks.
Is it culturally “objectionable” to put baking powder in something that you then call “Irish Soda Bread”? (Hint: it only has soda as leavening. That’s why it’s called “Soda Bread.”) As a culinary matter, you aren’t making soda bread, you are making a generic quick bread. But whatever.Your grandmother made it that way? Then she wasn’t making the traditional thing either. Stores and bakeries are full of faux Irish Soda Bread around March 17th. Is that offensive?
Corned beef and cabbage is not the Irish national dish, and in fact is rarely eaten there.
Green beer. Enough said.
BTW, strange variations on Chinese food are not limited to the US.
Smh nobody cares if something is from another culture. Cultures always mix as a result of immigration and cultural diversity. College students need to stop being so sensitive
That’s a good question, but unless we want to say the phrase doesn’t mean anything at all, surely we’d agree that sliced raw onion with Russian dressing on rye toast would not be a Philadelphia cheesesteak. While there may be plenty of debate over what it actually is, there are plenty of things (including filet mignon and brie) that it is not.
Baking soda would be useful.
The students union that lodged the complaint consisted of an all-white group. None of them were Indian or Hindu.
I find it funny that Indians didn’t care if their culture was being “appropriated”, but some white people claim to stand for their best interests, and attempt to ban practices from other cultures.