Yes. I’ll send you my paypal, but I’m only half Jewish, so I’ll give you a discount
Yesterday, a friend linked me to a video of a Jpop duo that does Klezmer-inspired music. I thought it was brilliant.
But then, I don’t mind Christians holding seders either. The Last Supper was a Passover seder. It is understandable that a devout Christian might want to experience a version of something Jesus himself experienced. In fact, I’ve met Christians who have incorporated elements of Jewish practice into their life on a more regular basis, under the theory that doing so – even if they don’t view it as religiously compulsory – brought them closer to Christ. Why should this be troubling to me?
But yes, non-Jews eating bagels and lox is where I draw the line. Obviously. What’s next, talking about “noshing” on some “schmear?”
Stop the madness.
I suppose every culture should stick to its own traditions and activities, and reject those of other cultures as unfit for their pagan/gentile/infidel/foreigner/whitey/darkie/coolie/western/eastern ways. We’ll just stick to one worldview and one perspective, and see how opponents of cultural appropriation like the result.
@awesomepolyglot Actual Hindus love it. Chiming in here late from Actual Hindu Land with Actual Hindu Yoga Practitioners in the family. The way Westerners do yoga with all their mats and music and so on looks silly from this side of the world, but hey, no problem, all I know is that people just think it’s cool that the West is into yoga now. They finally caught on and are doing it their own way.
Anyway … what the bleep??? Aren’t there enough real problems in the world? (I can share a few from here if you’re low on problems.) Dear Anti-Cultural Appropriation Warriors, Please stop appropriating the voice of other people to claim that a culture is being culturally appropriated when the culturally appropriated don’t bloody see it as cultural appropriation and don’t want to have you, Oh Great White Person, telling others what they “really” think.
@MomOnALaptop That last paragraph is amazing.
The yoga controversy reminds me a bit of the recent controversy over an event at the MFA in Boston that involved people trying on Japanese kimonos. I found it interesting that most of the protesters were not actually Japanese, whereas most actual Japanese and Japanese-American people who commented didn’t see the event as problematic. After all, generally speaking, Japan has a long tradition, at least since the country opened up again in the 1850s, of enthusiastically exporting Japanese culture (and participating in “Japonisme” in the West), and simultaneously importing and absorbing aspects of Western culture. Even well before then – as an example – the importation and use of the color “Prussian Blue” by Japanese artists (known in Japan as Berlin Blue) was a very important event in the development of the art of Japanese woodblock prints. And, of course, much of Japanese culture was itself based on importation from Korea and China.
So if I am from one culture and my DW from another, do we need two different types of meals when we eat, so we be engaging in cultural appropriation?
I verbally agreed with these. http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/10/the-dos-and-donts-of-cultural-appropriation/411292/
Generally, I mean, not verbally.
@HRSMom Cultural appropriation does not work both ways. I don’t mean to be rude; I am simply trying to expand your point of view beyond what you’ve personally experienced.
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Good links above from @OHMomof2 and @strivingforanivy
A lot has to do with how and why something is done, e.g. whether it’s appreciative (like “because these clothes are pretty and even cooler than Western stuff”) or shallow and smarmy (like “oooh look how many google hits I can get if I dress in this Sioux headdress.”) I guess it’s like the difference between art and pornography … if you have any sense, you know it when you see it.
I figure one reason that kids on American campuses seem to be going a bit silly over it is because they’re young kids learning about life and trying to do the right thing, and are surrounded by truly awful news and demagoguery and hateful speech all the time on TV / internet land, so they get upset … but they don’t know what to do with that feeling. And their personal experience level is really narrow. So they over-react, make off-base interpretations, catastrophize, and do and say things that are very naive – and because they also “know everything” at that age, and are hooked onto the internet to boot, it’s magnified.
Well, at least they’re trying. Although some of what I read makes me want to hit myself on the head with the newspaper. (Except it’s not a newspaper, it’s a laptop, and that’d hurt.)
Is Greek yoga active culture appropriation?
@fallenchemist Whoops! I had no idea.
I assumed that the MFA controversy was more between Japanese immigrants and people of Japanese descent who grew up in the United States, though I can’t really tell now from the various articles about the controversy. But I think one thing to keep in mind is that as always, different people have different opinions, and I think for cultural appropriation specifically, a lot of it has to do with your identity. I know that my parents see themselves as Indians that now live in the US, while I see myself as an American that happens to be of Indian descent. So I tend to more sensitive to being “othered,” than my parents, because to be frank, that’s sort of what they think of themselves in the first place.
@sylvan8798 This is really not funny. You’re devaluing an incredibly important movement and a valid concern in one fell swoop. If you haven’t already, a great thing to do would be to educate yourself on police brutality in the United States and the spiritual significance of yoga. I’m not trying to provoke a reaction, I just think it’s important that one has perspective before commenting on topics like this.
So, about active culture Greek yogurt…
^Striving, are you saying it is like racism, and can’t be practiced against white European cultures? If so, then just lump it in with racism. This what I would call a Native headdress just for laughs or to be funny. Or a parody of someone’s culture (blackface).
My POV is plenty broad, as I live in NYC area, so plenty of cultural differences. We just disagree on the point is all. When people take a valid point and apply it to an extreme, they unfortunately harm the original cause with the ridiculousness.
Especially when non hindus are the ones pushing the point on yoga. If there are valid points, they should make them in a constructive way. I presume you are still “striving”, but once you hopefully enroll in the Ivy of your choice, you’ll see how some people are more racist in their “pity” and SJW mentality than the othe people you’ll meet. Like the white yoga lady above.
PM me the link though. I’ll take a look! Good luck with the striving
This year we’ve culturually appropriated Festivus. The kids are exhibiting their feats of strength rolling on the floor wrestling. In-laws are on their way over for the airing of grievances. My souffle will turn out perfect as always, truly a Festivus miracle!
Festivus for the rest of us!
My birthday is on Festivus! Actually, the Constanza family reappropriated my birthday.