@compmom - In all frankness, for everyone who’s wondering about the value of EC’s (there’s currently a discussion going on in another thread about this very topic), I really don’t know what sort of impact that my son’s non-music related EC activities had on the admission results, such as earning a black belt in TKD or tennis or finding a club or two, etc. Obviously, none of these are significant for those live audition-based, BM degree pursuing applicants, so my questioning the merits of these non-music EC’s is directed at those applicants who are trying to follow the similar path as my S. My best “guess” is that, higher the level of musical talent, the less significant these activities and vice-versa, perhaps. There’s been so much emphasis placed on doing a certain kind of EC’s for the sake of enhancing the college entrance odds. I wish that, instead of asking what kinds of EC’s or looking at others’, the parents help discover their children’s genuine interests and passions and provide the resources for them to pursue them. I like seeing EC’s that are built on such and reflecting such passions in their essays.