I am not clear how things are supposed to work for students who live in a college dorm, especially out-of-state. Will students also receive a form at their college dorm? And if they are living only temporarily back at home on April 1st with the expectation of going back to the dorm shortly after, is the home adress really the one that should be used?
There was a section at the end of the census that asked if there was anyone on our list of people who didn’t normally live at that address. I clicked on S19, and it brought up another multiple choice question. “Lives away from (home address for which I was filling out census)_ to attend college or university.” was one of the choices and that’s what I chose for S19. I then told him that if he happens to come across a census taker at his school (fat chance now), to simply tell them he was counted at his parents’ home address.
Edited to add: We chose this b/c this is his home of record. Where his driver’s license is and where he’s registered to vote. So it made sense to us.
@HImom Be sure you tell your adult children you included them in your household. . Since they are well beyond college age and have their own residences elsewhere, I would have thought they would be counted on their own , where they now live outside of Hawaii? They are really just visiting you because of the death of your father from what I understand. But maybe I am wrong on this and someone else has more clarity. Very sorry about your dad.
I tried many times with the code online, lower case first then the upper case, nothing works, yesterday. So I called to interact with a poller, she did it just fine and I completed the survey on the phone.
It is funny that not only I have to give them the race but also the origin. In addition, they put gay couples as part of the questionnaire.
Yes, they are visiting and will likely still be here on 4/11 for cousin’s wedding, which I indicated on the census (they normally live elsewhere due to work & for D also medical specialty treatment).
Looking at it further, shouldn’t your S19 NOT have been listed at your home address?
“College students who live away from home should be counted at the on- or off-campus residence where they live and sleep most of the time, even if they are at home on April 1, 2020. If they live in housing designed for college students (such as dorms and apartments with “by-the-bed” leases), they will be counted as part of the Group Quarters Operation. If they live off campus in housing that is not designed for college students (such as a private house or apartment), they should count themselves at that address.”
Yes, I would think the census wants to track where people “live and sleep” most of the time, not where they are visiting on April 1. So, I am still confused by @HImom 's example, especially in regard to the son who lives, works , pays taxes outside of Hawaii and is not a dependent.
Whoops—maybe I messed up. I don’t think my S will be back in DC any time soon so just wanted him counted. It’s true he’s a VA resident and taxpayer. D is a medical dependent, tho she lives in LA most of the time.
They will probably get back home and find mail at their respective out of state homes, where they live and receive services. The code seems to be attached to the address. Good luck and don’t stress too much over it. You have enough going on right now!
How often do you get picked for that extended census stuff? I swear it went on forever for us last time. We were not able to decline.
Being a medical dependent or any kind of dependent has nothing to do with where you usually live.
@Syballa , If you are talking about the American Community Survey, info (from googling) says it is random, you have a one in 480 chance in any month to get the survey, and will not have to do it again within 5 years of having done one previously. We have never had to do one.
I don’t know what it was, other than tedious and invasive LOL. It was in person for a couple of time, like over a cup of tea LOL.
Got ours today & completed it. We listed several “origins” for DH and I. I don’t remember that being asked previously.
Filled ours out and filed it. I tried to skip past the origins request. It wouldn’t let me. I do not trust this administration’s aims or intents for such. Yes, I know mine and hubbie’s ancestral origins—especially mine in detail as my mom did our family’s genealogy (down both side) going waaaayyy back. So how far back does the government want it? The administration sneered at Elizabeth Warren’s.
I put “American” for both of us. That is what we are and what our folks have been for ages.
I also couldn’t get past “white” without putting an origin in. Wish I had thought of just putting “American” since it took it for you. Or put in all 3 countries my grandparents came from instead of picking just one. Just wanted to get through it. I just picked only English but could have just as easily put Scottish or Swedish. I also know my and H’s ancestry in detail and just put English for him as well, although could have put other things instead. . I am curious what they need/want this info for.
Going through the process now. The instructions on who to include are pretty clear (and are in line with the “Who To Count” link posted earlier):
"Enter the number of people that will be living or staying at XXX most of the time, as of April 1, 2020.
Our goal is to count people once, only once, and in the right place, according to where they will be living on April 1, 2020. Keeping this goal in mind, we ask you to use our guidelines to determine who to count at XXX .
Count people where they usually live and sleep.
For people with more than one place to live, count them at the place where they sleep most of the time.
For people who will be moving from one residence to another, count them at the residence where they will be living on April 1, 2020.
For people who do not have a usual residence, or who cannot determine a usual residence, count them where they will be staying on April 1, 2020.
Using those guidelines, be sure to INCLUDE the following types of people if they will be living or staying at XXX most of the time around April 1, 2020:
Babies and children of all ages (even newborns and infants), including biological, step, and adopted children, as well as grandchildren, foster children, and children in joint custody arrangements.
Any other close or extended family members living there, even partners, grandparents, cousins, in-laws, etc.
People who are not related to you, such as roommates, boarders, friends, or live-in employees.
People who will be staying at XXX on April 1, 2020 for a short or indefinite period of time, without a permanent place to live.
Do NOT include:
College students who live away from XXX most of the year.
Armed forces personnel who live away.
People who, on April 1, 2020, will be in a nursing home, mental hospital, jail, prison, detention center, etc.
People visiting XXX on April 1, 2020 who usually live and sleep somewhere else."
As the instructions say NOT to include College students who live away from home most of the year, I will NOT include our son even if his driver’s license and voting place remain attached to our home address and even if he were to come home prior to April 1st due to the coronavirus.
That said I am pretty sure that the purpose of the last question about people who didn’t normally live at that address is to auto-remove people such as college students that should have not been listed in the first place.
So I think you did the right thing. But your son is probably not counted at your home address, and will need to be counted where he goes to college. The good thing is that from the info I got from my son’s university this should happen automatically.
Posting here copy of email that my son forwarded to me explaining the process at his university:
"The 2020 Census is an opportunity for [students] to shape the future.
Every student that participates in the census contributes approximately $3,000 a year for 10 years to the State of XX for things like federal student loan programs, healthcare, affordable housing, job creation and public transportation.
As a student living in an XX residence hall you will automatically be counted in the 2020 Census by April 1. U.S. Census Bureau employees will work with representatives from your building to ensure that you are counted. You do not need to do anything further; we will respond on your behalf with information that does not personally identify you."
The surprising part imho is that it says that the information will not personally identify him. I was expecting that at least his name would noted so that hopefully one day in the future his grandchildren can see where he went to college.
I wonder what happens though if parents count them as well. Duplicates with adult children seem like a problem, if parents respond before their adult child have been able to respond ( or with college age, the college wants to count them). And when adults out of college living apart from their parents try to go online with their own code , will it be able to catch that they have already been counted by their parents ( based on name, birthdate)?
We got ours and completed it online…then the next day…we got a second one! Why?