<p>Forbes vs US news</p>
<p>I just love how Forbes ranks Cornell as 105th :)</p>
<p>I just love how forbes ranks the Liberal arts colleges with the National Universities. This is part of the reason why Cornell is pushed so low in the rankings.</p>
<p>I admit there are a good number of schools better then Cornell, but there aren’t THAT many colleges that can outmatch it enough to push it 105. That’s why I love Forbes :)</p>
<p>“I was thinking about well-roundedness of the undergraduate experience at Stanford, ie, its ability to achieve at very high levels academically, have a dynamic social environment and be athletically competitive on the national level in high profile sports like football, basketball and baseball”</p>
<p>University of Florida? hmmmm</p>
<p>Hi Tom,
U Florida has a pretty darn good package for its undergrads. No doubt about it. In fact, they might just belong in the Top 10. Go Gators! Take a look at this:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/972388-most-well-rounded-undergraduate-experiences.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/972388-most-well-rounded-undergraduate-experiences.html</a></p>
<p>MY TIME FOR A CHART! :)</p>
<p>1) Princeton
2) Yale
3) Stanford
4) Harvard (overrated s**t: massive grade inflation, sense of entitlement, etc.)
5) MIT
6) CalTech
7) Duke
7) Chicago
9) Columbia
10) Penn
11) Dartmouth
12) Northwestern (rise in applications, higher test scores, etc.)
12) WashU (same as above, meteoric rise in apps and excellent research)
14) UCB
15) Cornell
16) Johns Hopkins
17) Brown
18) Notre Dame
19) Georgetown
20) Carnegie Mellon</p>
<p>whaddayathink?</p>
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<p>ARWU vs Forbes
[Academic</a> Ranking of World Universities - 2009](<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp]Academic”>http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp) </p>
<p>I just love how ARWU ranks Brown University as 69th – and Cornell at 12th – in the world.</p>
<p>It just goes to show how most ranking methodologies are fraught with pitfalls and anomalies. In the case of Forbes, though, it’s probably more like downright incompetence and/or slander.</p>
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<p>Haha, very nice, very nice. Good to see someone else has a sense of levity on this forum :).</p>
<p>What’s this? We only have 40 members on the NAS! 
oh well . . . we’ll just have to cling to our Nobels (faulty counting and all) all the tighter, right 
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<p>^^^ I don’t agree with your opinion on Harvard. Theres no proof of grade inflation (At least as far as I know), and the sense of entitlement is an opinion rather then fact. Harvard has been top for years straight, and I don’t think it stopped yet. I think Vanderbilt should have been on the top 20 list, rather then Carnegie Mellon, and Notre Dame. Vanderbilt should have been on the 11,12,13 of your list next to Northwestern.</p>
<p>Just my opinion :)</p>
<p>Hmmm…a Vandy alumni, Yoda thinks…</p>
<p>Notre Dame has great undergrad but it’s grad school isn’t so hot. Still a great school. Vanderbilt in the ranks of Northwestern, WashU, and Cornell? Not yet. Although “the Harvard of the South” could make gains in the future.</p>
<p>As far as the real Harvard goes, oh please. Look it up. Even their newspaper admits it.</p>
<p>[Harvard</a> Grade Inflation : NPR](<a href=“http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1133702]Harvard”>Harvard Grade Inflation : NPR)
[Faculty</a> Tries To Combat Grade Inflation | The Harvard Crimson](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2002/6/6/faculty-tries-to-combat-grade-inflation/]Faculty”>Faculty Tries To Combat Grade Inflation | News | The Harvard Crimson)
[Why</a> Harvard Needs to Get Harder | Harvard Magazine Sep-Oct 2009](<a href=“http://harvardmagazine.com/2009/09/harvard-needs-to-get-harder]Why”>http://harvardmagazine.com/2009/09/harvard-needs-to-get-harder)</p>
<p>Sense of entitlement is a fact. I’m not trying to say the majority of Harvard students aren’t brilliant: they are. However, it seems that once they’re in college and they are going to a school where grade inflation is rampant and where 80% of students graduate with “honors.” My dad’s best friend went to Harvard. He now lives in a 1000 sq. ft. apartment in Cleveland. This is after he landed a job with JP Morgan Chase. He got fired for “attitude problems” as my dad calls it, that developed after he entered Harvard.</p>
<p>Now I’m not trying to say that Harvard is a bad school, because its an excellent one, and I’m not saying that everyone who goes to Harvard is a self-centered prick. They’re not. Harvard students, from the two I know, are just over-confident in themselves. They can do anything, they just cant let their attitude get in the way.</p>
<p>^ Thanks for the links. I learned something new today. But I don’t think that alone will move Harvards spot from 1 —> 4-5. In my opinion it would still stay the top, or either second place. </p>
<p>Oh, and that’s an opinion 
That’s a matter of each to his own [One person might think a Harvard student is over-confident, while the other might think they fail… (Yale)].</p>
<p>I think just because of name recognition, Harvard can stay at the top. I don’t think they can keep it up for very long though, considering the other points I made. And yes, I’m sure many Yalies would be delighted with my rankings :)</p>
<p>MK,
Whether it’s accurate or not, USNWR will tweak its methodology so that Harvard will always be either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. That’s part of the signalling that they do for the purpose of reinforcing the public’s perceptions so that people will accept USNWR as a legitimate ranking.</p>
<p>MK82492: Excellent post. I have a cousin that just visited yesterday. When you look at this guy, you’d feel sorry for the way he takes care of himself. He lives with his mom and listens to everything she says, etc.
He’s currently at Stanford. He’s 31 and still single. Usually we practice arranged marriages, but all the 14 girls he was arranged to see rejected him. Terrible.
HYPSM isn’t as “amazing” as you guys make it to seem! You will find geniuses at Yale and at the same time, slutty women at MIT too. It’s a fact. </p>
<p>Also for the Michigan people, I have something…funny
[University</a> of Michigan - WikiCU, the Columbia University wiki encyclopedia](<a href=“http://www.wikicu.com/University_of_Michigan]University”>University of Michigan - WikiCU, the Columbia University wiki encyclopedia)
Is this true at all, Alexandre??? :P</p>
<p>A late precinct report just in.</p>
<p>[Duke</a> University - WikiCU, the Columbia University wiki encyclopedia](<a href=“http://www.wikicu.com/Duke_University]Duke”>Duke University - WikiCU, the Columbia University wiki encyclopedia)</p>
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<p>OMG LMAO… I though I had heard it all in here. But, there is always soooo much more!!</p>
<p>lol barrons. Columbia really hates Princeton huh? Those Princeton articles on the wiki were really funny and pretty abrasive (but funny). I like it haha. It’s really hilarious that Duke is the “Princeton of the Confederacy.” :D</p>
<p>TheSaiyans, those WikiCU links are hilarious! LOL! Now tell me, what do Jerome Wiesner and Charles Vest (presidents of MIT for 24 of the last 40 years) have in common again?! ;)</p>
<p>Sure is Duke circle jerk in here…</p>
<p>And Saiyans, 31 and at Stanford? What am I missing here?</p>
<p>^Maybe he goes to grad school there?</p>