<p>^ oh rly?</p>
<p>Proof!!!</p>
<p>That was more than 10 years ago if I remember correctly, but I know it did once. But if MIT gets #1 and Caltech stays at #4 or even drops, that would be outrageous.</p>
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<p>way to propagate the rumors - lol. In all seriousness MIT had a score of 93 this year, USnews will have to hugely revamp their methodology to boost it 6-7 points.</p>
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<p>US News actually had a new head statistician who changed the formula that year to what he/she considered more accurately reflected the quality of the institution. I believe it had to do with changing the way US News compares per-student spending. CalTech ended up #1 for the year, catapulting from #4 the previous year. Obviously, CalTech didn’t improve that much in a 12-month period and HYP didn’t get worse; they just changed the formula. However, those at US News then chose to undo the formula tweak the next year, thus putting HYP back on top. You’ll also notice JHU greatly benefited from the tweak. Jumping from 14 to 7, but back down to 15 when they undid it.</p>
<p>Honestly, US News uses a formula that puts Harvard on top to help give it legitimacy. I’m not saying Harvard doesn’t deserve to be on top, but that is basically their proxy to show that the rankings are correct. Many people have said this so I’m not just making it up. Harvard could do some drastically stupid things and it would still be near #1 as people would make sure it wouldn’t drop. Again, I’m not putting down Harvard; it’s worthy of a #1 ranking year-in and year-out. Along the same lines, Princeton could start a new law school tomorrow and it’d probably be in the top 5 within a couple years. Ga Tech engineering could stop offering any courses and people would still rank it high in engineering. It’s all perception…</p>
<p>do you think wikileaks will publish the ranks soon</p>
<p>Theres something hilarious about that USNEWS rankings through the years link that cc54546 provided. If you click on specific years certain colleges that are ranked high now are ranked lower than certain colleges that are ranked lower now. exg. Tulane, Yeshiva and Georgia Tech being ranked higher than Brown, Duke and UNC in 83’</p>
<p>They must have had an extreme polar opposite methodology back then.</p>
<p>“do you think wikileaks will publish the ranks soon”</p>
<p>thenatural, I don’t think wikileaks will dare do any more damage than they have already done this past month.</p>
<p>House of London, Tulane, Georgia Tech and Yeshiva were not ranked higher than Brown, Duke or UNC. In 1983, none of those schools were ranked.</p>
<p>Yes they were. you just have to click on the year link and it re-arranges the schools. The numbers just were not inserted.</p>
<p>In 1983 Brown, Tulane, Georgia Tech, and Yeshiva were ALL unranked on an individual basis. Tulane debuted in '96 at 38th. Brown debuted in '84 at 7th. Georgia Tech debuted in '96 at 42nd. Yeshiva debuted at 45th in '97. </p>
<p>What is still funny to me is how people put so much faith in the US News methodology as the standard. I mean I like the ranking but if you don’t 100% with every variable, then you start to get a more and more different ranking for yourself (and that is ok.) No one cared that much about the US News Ranking even 10 years ago, let alone 15, and certainly not 20 years ago and earlier. It all assumed you had a car or a bicycle and could go to the book store that may or may not have carried the magazine. </p>
<p>For instance, Michigan was 7th in 1983 while Texas was 25th in '88. Since both have fallen in the rankings significantly since then have they really fallen in their educational experience or value? Absolutely not, those school are stronger and more competitive than ever. </p>
<p>The US News is a neat ranking but it’s only one group’s opinion of what makes a university good. I realize that this is CC, but come on. It’s so rare when others put more stock in a product than its producers.</p>
<p>House of London, if numbers were not inserted for a specific university in a particular year, it is because that university was not ranked on that given year.</p>
<p>I am sorry, but people who say US NEWS uses prestige as there main formula is just wrong. Seriously. There is no proof of this. Harvard was always known as the best of the best, and people who say otherwise are just probably some kid who got accepted to Yale or Cornell. Or other schools which are not Harvard (Or any ivy), in which they got rejected from Harvard.</p>
<p>I can’t believe this.</p>
<p>Not sure exactly what your point is nothingto. I think it’s a fair point that the USNWR need HYPS to be all be somewhere near the top to give the rankings some legitimacy. The year that Harvard is ranked 15th, people will cease to trust the rankings and thus sales will drop, which is bad if you run a commercial enterprise.</p>
<p>^It’s also a conspiracy, or at least propaganda. And nothingto, prestige is only 25% of the ranking. Personally, I think USNWR should include publications and citations in various forms of literature as a catagory of its own, and basically eliminate the prestige part.</p>
<p>^^ They are near the top BECAUSE they ARE the best. Seriously that is not that hard to understand. I just find it funny people trying to make other look down on HYP, by saying they aren’t the best. Sure they can be bad at some aspects, but overall they are the best.</p>
<p>^^, and ^, It doesn’t take rankings, or US NEWS, to know that HYPS were and is (at the moment) the best Colleges. Plus where is your source for the 25% prestige in the formula?</p>
<p>Did anyone else hear that MIT is the new top school???</p>
<p>^^Do you read other’s posts before responding?</p>
<p>The 25% is the peer review section. Everything else is based off of data.</p>
<p>^^You were the one to propagate this rumor in the first place, so I know you’re just making stuff up.</p>
<p>^ First of all, I didn’t propogate any rumors in the first place.</p>
<p>Plus, second of all, what are you talking about the peer review section? Is there anything that backs up this data? I rather have a source. I don’t know what post you are talking about, because you never mentioned any peer review section in your post.</p>
<p>hey nothingto, isn’t there a picture of the john harvard statue you should be pleasuring yourself to right now?</p>
<p>Yeah, and now I get insulted, just because I say Harvard is a great school? </p>
<p>But, yes. There is.</p>