USC Marshall vs. Cornell CALS-AEM

College Majors Business Majors
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<p>or Film, Communication, Engineering, or any other pre-professional program? The only area in which UCLA actually trumps USC is in most liberal arts subjects (anything inside USC’s College of Letters, Arts, & Sciences).</p>

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<p>You’re absolutely 100% wrong. USC Marshall is known for grade deflation (the Marshall Curve, as mentioned above). In fact, it had become so bad over the past couple years that it was mentioned in every single critique of the school (see BW’s ug business rankings). Even after raising the cruve, average grades in the school will only be 3.0</p>

<p>Compare that to the ivies, which boast average GPA’s of 3.4+</p>

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With the performing arts, both are on par. Communication…who cares about that? Engineering, I’d pick UCLA over USC. Pre-professional? Like Accounting? I’d put that in business.</p>

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<p>the OP asked about USC vs. Cornell. can you people stick to the subject? USC is an AMAZING school and the average SAT score for Marshall is substantially higher than that of AEM students. Marshall is undoubtedly known as one of the most difficult schools at USC to gain admission into (compare with NYU and Stern). you need to make sure that your employers know about the strict Marshall curve if you plan to move to the east coast after graduation, however. and btw, Marshall is currently ranked higher on U.S. News (9) while Cornell AEM is 11 for best undergrad business programs. i’m not even trying to be biased because I’ve applied to both schools. if i get into both, I’d only choose Cornell because it’ll make for a huge financial difference.</p>

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Also note that USC takes your best SAT scores from different sittings.</p>

<p>For example, if you take the SAT 3 times:
1st score: M: 800 V: 0 CR: 0
2nd score: M: 0 V: 800 CR: 0
3rd score: M: 0 V: 0 CR: 800</p>

<p>Your USC SAT score: 2400
Your UCLA SAT score: 800</p>

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so do most schools, including cornell</p>

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<p>UCs don’t do that? Is that a change in policy?</p>

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<p>i really don’t think thats true, unless you can prove this somehow. i know someone who was OOS, and even considered international at the time who got into berkeley engineering with a combined score of 1530. had they not used best scores from different sittings, he would’ve had about 1400.</p>

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<p>UC’s take your best total score from different sittings. USC takes your best separate scores from different sittings. There is a difference.</p>

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That is not true.</p>

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<p>Haas is far superior in IB placement than USC. I’ve known top students from Haas who got jobs at Citi, GS and Morgan. I can’t say the same for USC.</p>

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<p>This is off-topic kind of… but how difficult is it to get into Cornell’s AEM major?</p>

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I believe there were a couple from USC that were able to get into UBS LA, one of the hardest places to get in.</p>

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Did you go to Haas or do you work in the LA area? I have no doubt that USC is certainly more local than Haas.</p>

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<p>the thing about cornell that i have noticed is, being an ivy league school, they seem to look past high numbers and really focus on those admissions essays. you won’t find a similar admissions criteria with schools such as nyu (stern) and most likely marshall too, where admissions is very number-oriented. the average SAT score is lower than both stern and marshall but that will most likely change for this incoming freshman class and beyond. another thing to note is that there are only about 90 entering freshman each year. after learning of the program’s clandestine nature, a bunch of cornell students attempt at an internal transfer to AEM every year.</p>

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<p>Hahaha attempt being the key word. I heard that it’s extremely difficult to transfer into AEM… do you know where I can find the numbers and SAT scores for AEM acceptees?</p>

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<p>well i read somewhere (businessweek perhaps?) that 70% of internal transfers are admitted.</p>

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<p>USC employment report is actually available online. I am surprised no one posted the link here. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.marshall.usc.edu/emplibrary/2006%20Placement%20Report.pdf[/url]”>http://www.marshall.usc.edu/emplibrary/2006%20Placement%20Report.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You’d be the judge if it’s good or not. Keep in mind the size of the class is big (~900 student per year).</p>

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<p>I think USC is better. USC probably has a better business education, although AEM probably does better with recruitment to IBs etc. AEM is considered a joke major filled with a lot of athletes and a bunch of people from NEW YORK who either failed out of biology(pre-med) or are doing it for the discounted tuition. The professor who teaches the 2 introductory business classes is a bafoon who knows very little about business and has no business experience. In fact very few of the faculty actually work experience.</p>

<p>Besides, USC has a better less competitive environment, much much better location for a school, better sports and better weather.</p>

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<p>I can’t belive USC is being compared to Cornell. Cornell is in a totally different league than USC, there is no contest.</p>

<p>The only reason someone should pick USC over Cornell is if you got a great financial aid package and plan on working in the SoCal area post graduation.</p>

<p>intuit2k2 is a ■■■■■■, you smile much, man? It is a highly ranked bschool, and Cornell is a “target school” for Ibanking, you can’t say that about USC.</p>

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<p>I don’t think he denies that AEM does better for IB recruiting. He’s just talking about the quality of the program. I’d give some weight to his word considering he actually went to Cornell.</p>

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<p>Wharton School,</p>

<p>I said AEM has better recruitment statistics for Investment Banking, but for those who are actually passionate about the subject of business and who would like to learn from professors with professional experience AEM is not the program for them.</p>