BTW one other thing - when students with numbers beyond the usual range for a particular school are rejected - for whatever reason - it strikes me as pure egotism. 18 year olds in particular can’t seem to grasp that schools are looking for traits BEYOND pure numbers - like, for example, whether or not a kid wants to attend the actual school. They’re also looking for things like character, good social skills, and for what the student will contribute to the university both as a student and as a prospective alum. They have enough applicants who meet the minimum numbers. Students dismiss the importance of the rest at their peril.