<p>The point is there is NO EVIDENCE that post 9/11 USNA graduates were, in any way, deficient in performing their assigned duties.</p>
<p>There is NO EVIDENCE that the Academy climate, pre-Fowler, in any way has contributed to increased casualties for any service personnel assigned to the theater.</p>
<p>In short, there is NO EVIDENCE that the way and extent of the changes implemented will do anything to improve performance. Other practices were being implemented to control sexual harrasment and drinking. Most mids I know have no problme with increased scrutiny of honor violations.</p>
<p>USNA09mom has it, more or less, correct: The Academies are not responsible–and I would think in particular the Naval Academy–for the continuing deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Finally, what works, or is necessary, for West Point does not make it necessary for USNA. Assuming–and I am assuming for a moment–that ECAs are marginalized, liberty minimized, travel to football games restricted, and mandatory study hours are applicable to all classes (all of which I don’t think are in practice at USMA but assuming that you have stated correctly that “much of the stuff” has already been in place at USMA) at USMA, then there is NO EVIDENCE that such practices were needed at USNA. </p>
<p>In case you are not aware–I hope you are but just in case you are not–the Navy’s mission is completely different than the Army’s. I don’t want to resurrect the whole argument about the necessity for change–especially considering that I won’t participate in such discussions and may not be able to come back to this site for another few weeks–but it just strikes me wrong that a MILITARY ACADEMY parent is supporting changes at the NAVAL ACADEMY. Changes about which he has very limited knowledge and regarding circumstances about which he has little experience. As the Supt. himself put it: The Academy is not in crisis. Thus, if the Supt. thought everything was working well, why does some non-USNA parent come over here and suggest that change was needed. Sorry, I think its a bit out of line. (Not that many such people on these threads cross the line regularly anyway.)</p>
<p>“Nation at War” is complete BS. I wish we were a NATION at war. What sacrifices, other than those directly or indirectly (e.g. family) involved, has the NATION been asked to make to support this war? Heck, we’re not even asking the Nation to pay for the war on a current basis.</p>
<p>One more thing. Could you spare us the continued listing you make at various times of those who have died in Iraq. Do you think we don’t consider these senseless deaths on a regular basis without needing reminders from you?
Those of us who read these thread–BUT NOT ENOUGH OF THE REST OF THE NATION–are very aware of the dead and dying in Iraq.
Put your intermittent posts about how brave the Army has been on other websites perhaps some of the other college boards here on CC. THEN, maybe, we will become a nation at war.</p>