<p>And I say YOU are “out of line”, mom. Just relax, stop whining, and stop bashing other posters.</p>
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<p>Starting a negative thread simply to make another school look bad? You mean like this?</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=195307[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=195307</a></p>
<p>I have no problem disagreeing with with Byerly and have done so on any number of threads, but I have no intention chasing him or any other poster around CC to forums that I seldom read in order to call them on every snide remark. I didn’t call you on your negative thread and I don’t call him on his. </p>
<p>I do applaud when people complain about actual offenses here on CC, by Byerly or anyone else. But that is my whole point – these hometown news stories are NOT offensive. They attack no one. They don’t put down other schools. They are positive by their very nature. So if you want to gripe about snide remarks that actually are snide, be my guest. But you ruin your credibility when you extend your complaints to everything, including the good stuff. It comes across as a needless and mean-spirited attack on Harvard and its students and ends up looking like petty jealousy or envy.</p>
<p>Do you mean mom was bashing another school? </p>
<p>Are you telling me she posted an article about another school that might be perceived as <em>negative</em>???</p>
<p>Right here on College Confidential??</p>
<p>She said - or implied - something “mean-spirited” about Harvard? And on the Harvard fourm, no less??</p>
<p>I’m <em>crushed</em> … I think I’m going to CRY!</p>
<p>This is just too much to bear!!</p>
<p>First of all, I have very little problem with this thread, and I wouldn’t ever have mentioned anything except that I think I understand why other people might, and it’s not necessary out of “petty jealousy or envy.”</p>
<p>coureur, I think you were missing my point. It’s not only that Byerly’s posts on other forums are disrespectful and should be disputed there; they also give an indication that Byerly could have ulterior motives for posting some of these stories as well. </p>
<p>As I briefly mentioned earlier, you can read the point of this thread in a couple ways: 1) a personal interest story about a girl who got into Harvard and inevitably decided that it was the best school for her, or 2) evidence that Harvard is a better school than Stanford. I doubt anyone has problems with the first interpretation, but it was the second that invoked the reaction from the Stanford kids. </p>
<p>Byerly’s track record on his view of other schools suggests that at least part of his motivation was to show Harvard’s superiority to Stanford. Even if that may be the case for “the overwhelming number of admits” it is both a useless and unnecessarily provoking thing to post about. </p>
<p>Of course, Byerly is free to post such sentiments - that’s really not my problem - but please, don’t be shocked when other posters become angry and annoyed and respond to threads that may genuinely be well-intentioned. Byerly has developed a confrontational reputation, and it’s probably something he enjoys. I personally find this pretty immature, but people are entitled to act as they wish. The only thing that surprises me is that the majority of the rest of the Harvard community not only does not call Byerly on acting childish and disrespectful, but they also denounce other posters as “jealous” when they respond to his deliberate provocation.</p>
<p>I think WHICH forum a particular post is posted in does an enormous part of setting the post’s context. (One other thing that sets a post’s context is who posts it, as has been noted here. 
) So, yes, if you see an offensive post on CC, reread the CC [url=<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item]terms”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item]terms</a> of service<a href=“which%20you%20can%20find%20under%20%22Help%20and%20Rules%22%20on%20the%20top%20left%20of%20pretty%20nearly%20every%20CC%20page”>/url</a> and then cite chapter and verse about what is offensive about the post. I think the grown-up adults who post here will not take it personally if someone identifies a case in which one of their posts crosses the line CC has drawn about what kinds of posts should be here. Other than that, if someone makes a factual statement with which you disagree, calmly express what your disagreement is, and let onlookers know what you think the relevant facts are. </p>
<p>I will read other college-specific forums more precisely as they increase posts of links to news articles about new students at those colleges. I just learned today that my oldest son plays soccer with the son of a former collegiate soccer player at a fine university that has been mentioned in this thread. That’s cool. I want to know more about that college. TELL ME more, in that college’s forum. Eliminate the negative by accentuating the positive.</p>
<p>I find it particularly unfortunate that this thread has turned into a debate about Byerly. The original subject of this thread is someone who posts on these boards under the screen name savvy_sley. Based on her posts here, she seems like a very lovely young woman and someone who will be very successful at Harvard. If people want to debate Byerly’s merits, maybe we could start a separate thread for that.</p>
<p>You know coureur, I think that you’re right–I probably shouldn’t have posted that article about the Harvard dean’s book–on balance, I think that it was definitely not a positive thing to do, and I apologize if it bothered anyone or was considered inappropriate. </p>
<p>It would be nice, however, if Byerly would apologize or if you and other Harvard boosters would hold him to task for his incessant negative comments about many other schools and individuals–it’s difficult to post anything positive about Princeton in the Princeton forums without him making some rude comment about Princeton. While it might not be your job, I’m sure that you’ve read many of the posts I’m talking about and it would be nice if some of the Harvard partisans would make a stand and tell Byerly that many of his posts are completely inappropriate and argumentative.</p>
<p>Sorry, cosar, you’re right of course, this thread should be about the origianl poster–I just can’t see making a separate thread about Byerly though</p>
<p>I chose harvard over YPMC(rejected to S…). At first I decided to go P, but after seeing all of those H’s math program, I thought H was better. This happens a lot.</p>
<p>Now, to turn to a more troubling matter:</p>
<p>Why don’t you just stop bashing other posters, “mom”, and simply stay off the Harvard threads if you don’t have anything positive and nice to say about this wonderful school? </p>
<p>Your “rude, completely inappropriate and argumentative” posts here leave me close to tears. Now just *stop it, “mom”, before somebody starts to think you are a … mean-spirited person! Waaaaah!</p>
<p>To midatlmom: I’ve encountered plenty of inappropriate and argumentative Harvard-bashing posts on the Princeton boards. You can’t call everyone on everything. </p>
<p>To Byerly: One of these days, when presented with the opportunity to take the high road, you’ll take it. (And btw, I agree that the thread you recently started on the Yale board was over the line.)</p>
<p>To savvy: On behalf of the board, I apologize. Hopefully your generation will be able to do better. ;)</p>
<p>Be careful, Cosar, or you’ll bruise “mom’s” feelings.</p>
<p>What the main problem is that instead of fighting fire with fire, as I attempt to do, many posters simply sit around and complain about Byerly’s tactics, as if their own were that much better. </p>
<p>He’s right, there is an enormous amount of anti-Harvardism on the Y and P boards. That too would have to stop if Byerly does.</p>
<p>But me, I relish a good argument.</p>
<p>And Thai food?</p>
<p>I absolutely adore Byerly at this moment in time. :)</p>
<p>I was wondering how the soul food is near Harvard (said tokenadult to keep this thread somewhat on topic). I went to what was described to me as the best soul food restaurant in Chicago once, and it had very good food indeed. I’m also a big fan of food from the eastern shores of the Mediterranean Sea, whether that filled is labeled Greek, Turkish, Lebanese, Israeli, or “Middle Eastern.”</p>
<p>The growth stock in Harvard Square at the moment is <em>Indian</em> restaurants. There must be ten of them between Central and Porter!</p>
<p>tokenadult:</p>
<p>Central Square is where you can find more ethnic restaurants. There’s Moroccan, Indian, Ethiopian, Tibetan, Greek, Thai, Japanese, Chinese, Tex-Mex to add to the Indian, Thai, Korean, Japanese, Malaysian, Tex-Mex, Vietnamese restaurants in Harvard Square. Helmand’s in Kendall Square serves Afghan food. It also has the distinction of being owned by the sibling of Pres. Karzai of Afghanistan. It’s packed all the time.
Porter Exchange is known by some as Little Tokyo. It has Japanese restaurants, a Korean restaurant, a Japanese grocery store. I don’t know if one can get soul food in Cambridge but there are some soul food restaurants in the Dorchester area of Boston.</p>
<p>I think I relish Thai food, Byerly, above all other things.</p>
<p>I have to say, Stanford was always my dream and I will love to be a freshman there next year, however, Harvard Square is something unique lacking at Stanford. Even the village at Berkeley is a unique and positive place that stanford lacks. That is the trade off for having an amazing 6,000 acre plus campus.</p>
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<p>I don’t have any right to try to control other posters, even if I dislike what they do. If they violate CC rules, then it’s the mods’ job to handle that. If they stay within the rules, then it’s none of my business. I’m not vice president for marketing at Harvard, and I don’t get to take alumni to task for interfering with my idea of good public relations.</p>
<p>Do I wish EVERYONE would quit starting negative threads about competitor schools? You bet. But it isn’t up to me. All I can do is choose not to do that myself.</p>