Valedictorian with low sat scores

<p>in my case i am a salutatorian cuz the val right now played the system and convinced the skool board to convert the grading system into weighted… it was uw before, and since the val took tons of online (long distance learning) courses he got extra 5’s in addition to his 4’s. so right now it’s a 0.02 difference between us two, but he got a 2070 and i got a 2220 on the SAT Reasoning Tests.</p>

<p>I the Val at my school is an idiot. Shows how you can kiss ass for high grades but when it comes to SATs, you can get owned.</p>

<p>My school doesn’t do Ranking, but my school automatically puts the 4 highest GPA’s in a class automatically in the Top 1 % on the secondary report (I’m included in this group).</p>

<p>My school is relatively small, young, and crappy. But all of the Top 1 % have SAT Scores atleast in the 2,000’s except one in the 1900’s, Mine being the highest at a 2,220.</p>

<p>Considering how much my school sucks, the OP’s school must really suck lol.</p>

<p>I think the lowest SAT score at my school is a 1650…
We have around 150ish people per grade, but it’s a private school where everyone has to take an entrance examination (SSAT?).</p>

<p>I would also say around 50%-60% of my grade has an SAT score of 1950+ and its equivalent on the ACT. The top 30%-40% almost exclusively has 2100+ and its equivalent on the ACT.</p>

<p>Don’t worry about being a valedictorian, everyone knows they’re gamed. And besides, most schools decide at the end of senior year; so it has no impact on colleges. Take the classes you have to and then take the classes you’re interested in. Forget about playing the valedictorian game.</p>

<p>i average on practice tests around a 1900 (first SAT scores out on tuesday) and im ranked 10 out of 425 kids. Am i really smart with that SAT score or does my school just suck? I question myself a lot -_-</p>

<p>Well, I am the valedictorian of my small international private school. (Really small, <50 people in my class). I basically knew nothing about the SAT until 6 months ago and started studying 5 months ago, since I was thinking of studying here in my country but I changed my mind. I got a 2050, which I don’t think it’s bad, but I could have done sooo much better if I had studied more for the SAT. What I know is that I can apply next year too, if I do not get admitted at any of the schools I’m applying to.
So I think that what happened to the OP is that he just didn’t study for the SAT. When I took practice tests before studying anything I was in getting 1700ish and 1800ish scores. Scoring high on the SAT for most people is all about taking prep courses and studying a lot. I think it’s possible for anyone to get a high score on the SAT with a lot of studying. Practice makes perfect.</p>

<p>Public School of 120 per grade. Only 25% plan on four year college, most to local CC. To be top 10% you have to take 10 honors or advanced classes, so no totally easy class kids can be Val.</p>

<p>The girl who will probably be Val. for d’s class, junior, is a grade grubber and a crier. She shamelessly begs and pleads and cries for a better grade or extra credit. Yes, she literally cries if a grade is less than a 99.</p>

<p>She told everyone she’s going to Vandy, not applying, definitely going. She took the ACT in October. 24 was the score. Of the juniors who took it, her score was the lowest. The veil of invincibility has been lifted.</p>

<p>I think my school is a bit opposite. I mean our valedictorian and salutatorian have both 2300+, but then you hit a glob of people who are 2200-2300. Then there are people who are 100/538 or 120/538 that have 2350s. Kinda weird.</p>

<p>Currently I am ranked around 100/500 as a sophomore with a SAT score of 2260 with no prep what so ever. I have the highest SAT score in the entire school by a comfortable margin of around 100 points, but I barely rank in the top 20%. The going to be valedictorian for my grade has an SAT of 164. Yeah, my work ethic sucks.</p>

<p>I find these comments quite offensive.
I am #2 in my class - with a 3.95 weighted at that.
The SAT is just a puzzler of a test, and im not good at standardized tests. I got a 1610/2400, and got into Ohio State-Columbus, Rutgers - NB, U of Maryland -College Park , and U of Virginia with scholarship offers.</p>

<p>An uneven correlation between GPA and SAT score should not devalue anyone’s education. I had wonderful teachers who prepare me for college, especially my AP teachers.</p>

<p>Well…if anyone can get a 2400, I guess Ill take it again and try to get at least a 1900</p>

<p>Sometimes (although I doubt it’s the case here), someone can become valedictorian by being incredible in one particular academic area, but “just okay” in others. For instance, last year’s valedictorian at my school (approximate class size of 800) achieved the highest GPA in the history of the district by being several years ahead in math. This allowed him to take extra 5.0 AP math courses (that no one else qualified for), as well as skip a few 4.0 pre-reqs for 5.0 AP science classes. Thus, although in the humanities he often barely kept an A, in the end, his GPA was higher.</p>

<p>However, his “tilted” talents, so to speak, were pretty obvious in his standardized test results: hands down full scores in math and science on both the SAT and the ACT, but not very high composite scores. He actually wasn’t even a National Merit Semifinalist (and my school produces several every year).</p>

<p>Having said that, the guy was brilliant. He won state championships in math and science every year, and I really don’t think the fact that he’s lackluster in history and English makes him any less of an asset to the college he’s at now.</p>

<p>And where is he now?</p>

<p>My schools has 3 2400s, and I’m ranked like 23/525 (although if it was weighted ranking, I would be significantly higher). Apart from that, there is a splattering of 2300s (7 at least). Yet our school is considered sucky because the lower end of the spectrum drags the whole school down (API = TERRIBAD).</p>

<p>I think we can all agree that the work it takes to become valedictorian is different from the work it takes to have a high SAT score, no?</p>

<p>Every school also has a different system and every student has a different way of thinking, so even that varies. I’m number 1 at my school right now (junior), and since it’s based on weighted averages, my peers respect that I’m number 1 because they know I work hard and I take difficult courses.</p>

<p>Valedictorian =/= high SAT Scores</p>

<p>My school:
I am #1 with 17 APs, 4 College Courses, and 2 Honors - 3.9 Unweighted, 4.7 Weighted, AP Scholar, 1660 SAT, 2 Officer positions, District Music, Tutoring</p>

<h1>2 with 9 APs and 2 Honors, 3.97 Unweighted, 4.4 Weighted, 2200+ SAT, President of one club, Multiple Sports NM Commended, AP Scholar with Distinction</h1>

<h1>3 with 9 APs and 2 Honors, 3.97 Unweighted, 4.39 Weighted, 2200+ SAT - AP Scholar with Distinction, (Awards in FBLA)</h1>

<h1>4 with 8 APs and 2 Honors, 3.95 Unweighted, 4.35 Weighted, 2200+ SAT - AP Scholar with Honors, noted for ability achievement in the Theatre and Dance</h1>

<p>I am VERY weak in one area, English XD </p>

<p>The point is, in my opinion, Valedictorian means the person who represents who will do well in life. That is by working hard in no matter what you do and never giving up. SAT Scores do not capture that really well…</p>

<p>^How do you have 17 APs and only regular AP scholar?</p>

<p>^^You state you have or are completing 17 APs, yet you only received the AP Scholar award indicating you did okay or poorly on your AP exams while some of your classmates did very well with scores of 4 or 5 on all exams taken.</p>

<p>In my opinion you took too many APs that you couldn’t handle to boost your weighted GPA. Yes, SAT scores don’t factor in work ethic or determination, but one thing you failed to realize throughout your studies is how to do well on standardized tests (SAT/AP) and know your academic limits (don’t take 17 APs).</p>

<p>Yes, I did fail to to do well on standardized tests, however I did try my very best to learn. I improved my SAT score every time I took it. I was sub 1500 initially. I worked hard to get it up to 1660. The thing I am trying to say is, I did improve, and I worked very hard to improve.</p>

<p>For instance, when I practiced for AP Euro, I initially got 1s a lot. But in the end, I earned a 3 on the real AP test because of the enormous amount of effort I put into my practice. This was practically how every AP test I have taken turned out. I have never anything above a 3. (unless you count AB subscore)</p>

<p>I agree completely with AvidStudent, I failed to learn how to do well on Standardized Tests. But there is a difference between the AP Class and the AP Exam, just as there is a difference between the school experience and the SAT test. </p>

<p>Academic Limits are very vague because of the multiple definitions of “Academics”. I am the only one in my class who is taking Multivariable Calculus at the local college as well as Calculus Based Physics Did My SAT in Math correlate? 670 in a way, yes.</p>