<p>Gosh, I HOPE so! But in reading these posts, as well as the other one about essays…I don’t think it gets caught…the majority of the time at least. =(
So not fair. I can’t believe I just realized how badly some people lie or…“exaggerate”</p>
<p>lol nice thread.
haha personally, i know that a few teachers have told me that i could put down that i’m the captain/president of a club when i’m not. i’m a junior, so i haven’t really thought about what EXACTLY i’m gonna put down on my apps yet. but, for example, my school’s “math team” is amazing…we always win first place in regional/state (sometimes) competitions…but the thing is…we don’t really have a “math team.” the teacher just asks the kids that she thinks are the “smartest” (which has nothing to do with averages, thank god) to represent…and they’re different everytime. but i’ve always been to ALL of the competitions, so she says i could be the captain. but it’s not in the computer or anything, so is that allowed?</p>
<p>This is a GREAT thread and I thnk I should bump this. One more question though: what if you’re not lying but do not have sufficient document to prove it? </p>
<p>i. e. I am a worship leader in a Korean church, but the only way to verify this is call my pastor, but he can’t speak English…</p>
<p>i. e. 2. I am the president of a newspaper, but it wasn’t school-affiliated.
btw, what is the definition of verification? ADULT’S CONFIRMATION? what if it’s another fellow student that confirms it?</p>
<p>No, you don’t need to verify it.</p>
<p>Don’t say you were the president of StuCo when you weren’t even in it. Actually, don’t say you were president even if you were Vice President and did more work than the lazy president. But a few hours (under 10) won’t hurt. Cast yourself in the best light possible without lying. If you lied, once they test you, you would fall on your face.</p>
<p>i have an idea:</p>
<p>get your mom to host a “writing competition.” make yours be the only entry. voila! writing awards! perfectly legit too.</p>
<p>When I see a lot of people’s applications (posted online), I wonder how they have the time to pay attention to academia while doing all those ECs. Exaggeration like this raises alarm.</p>
<p>me too. sometimes, when i am on the chance thread, i half think that the people are lying buttheads.</p>
<p>Yeah, sadly. But there’s worse. The valedictorian of a neighboring high school near mine got accepted into Columbia. Her school agreed to not tell the college that she cheated multiple times, smokes, and drinks. I think it’s crap. At least her parents made her loan $200K.</p>
<p>I would never suggest exaggeration on any EC not worth the worry you get afterwards.</p>
<p>Take me for an example, I suffered so much and I am still worrying right now in what is supposed to be the best summer of my life. During senior year, I joined the Chinese club at the beginning of the senior year. I did about 18-19 hours(I only remember 12 hour-ish first semester but I think I did at least 6 in the second semester) of community service for it freshmen year. I put down 25 hours for the Volunteer hours. When I did my UCapps, the option to put down community service was basically they give 1 spot for #hours/per week then another for how many weeks per year. And lastly you check off the years you did them in. So i put down 25(a bit exaggerated by like 5-6 hours) and I checked 9th and 12th grade(I was in the club at beginning of 12th grade so I thought if I stayed in the club I would get at least 25 hours since it take around 15 hours per semester to be an active member). But after UC apps, I started to slack off due to the fact that after 4 years of SAT school and 3 years of writing classes, college stuffs is finally over. I basically did nothing for Chinese club(funny enough, I did the same for CSF but I actually did at least 25 hours since my friends forced me to go to aids walk/march of dimes and I did Recycling for the jointed effort of environmental club/csf club every wednesday for 4 month). I even forgot to sign up for the second semester of Chinese club. Now I am hella worried 
Even though some of my friend say college won’t care about Chinese club since Im not really an officer or anything just an regular member. I am still as worried as hell. Do not exaggerate on your college apps!!!</p>
<p>xbankx, that’s okay, because when you specify that you’re going to continue for the rest of twelfth grade, it means that you intended to. I said on mine that I intended to continue being in the Marketing club, but after college apps (actually, a bit before that) I quit because ironically they had no need for a Treasurer anymore… sniff…</p>
<p>It just is not worth it. It isn’t going to up your chances much if at all to bump things up. It just might make you feel like it is. And for that you are crossing an important line, and if you get caught, it can be game over. The ECs that make the big difference are verifiable as they are on many lists. Things like the Intel Siemans, Debate rankings, recruitable athlete, national something or other. The rest is not a big deal. It’s the story and heart that goes with it.</p>
<p>If you list ECs that your counselor recc or teacher reccs don’t pick up on, it’ll be suspicious. I know of admissions who have actually called up counselors to ask. And they do find out.</p>
<p>I’m wondering how you portray a lack of EC’s because the student couldn’t stay after school because of there not being a parent to drive them home? Or what if a child had to work and chose to do that after school instead of staying for the drama club or band, etc. And lastly, what if, as with my daughter, their EC’s were not school related because of apathy at the school (not many well attended clubs) and he/she did music, dance, volunteer work, outside of the school? Her counselors know a little of it from conversation, but not from having an advisor at the school see it? Does everything have to be from the school itself. Some public school aren’t as good as others with offerings and attendance.</p>
<p>A friend of mine “white lied” in her application. But he didn’t do anything major like lie about the n.o of volunteer hours she did or something.
Like for instance, she had a job at this children’s festival once, were she gave out tickets at a booth near the merry go round. In the certificate her boss gave her, the nature of the shop wasn’t specified, so she manipulated that by writing a few sentences in her essay about how cool she found it during the job to babysit kids, how much she loved kids…blah blah blah…
Oh and in junior year she was elected sports woman, since she was one of the only people in our grade who would actually show up to PE on time. They gave her a certificate for it the day before finals started. She went on and on in her essay about that to, talking about how she supposdly excersised for hours and hours a day to get that title.
Now, this is completly unethically, but hey- it did help her get into brown and Mcgill. However; she didnt get into her dream school, stanford, although she was at the top of our class all throughout highschool and did great on her SATs. I’m betting they saw right through just how fake she was.</p>
<p>say you were co-principle of a section in an orchestra (IE, there are two principles that are equally skilled)</p>
<p>Would it be dishonest to put “principle”? I mean, you did serve as principle, even if you weren’t the only one.</p>
<p>if i co-founded and am co-president of a club at my school for 2 years…would they b able to check on if i were to say ‘founder and co-prez of…’</p>
<p>Juanmarco, smarteeangel101: If the other co- person does not apply to the same schools. I have a similar situation but I’m just going to say co- (even though we’re not applying to the same schools).</p>
<p>hey i too have a question about voluteer work.
In the summer going into sophomore and junior year i did volunteer work at the library. I worked at least 70-80 hours in total. The problem is that I only spoke with this one lady and i would go in during the mornings and she would give me some work to do. That lady is now gone and worst part is i didnt really know her name. I know that sounds weird but im not sure what to do now. </p>
<p>my school has mandatory comm. service hours (60) and my gc told me i could ask my parents to write the letter stating i had completed my hours but i really want to mention it in my college app too and im worried that if the adcom contacts the library, ppl at the library will probably say “no ive never even heard of that kid”.</p>
<p>fastdry, someone there must know her name. I’d ask them for help contacting her. If she can’t be found, I’d ask the head librarian to help you out with this information. Tell her/him it never occurred to you to get confirmation of these hours in writing but now that you’re applying to colleges you hae seen the error of your ways!</p>