<p>^Second post in the thread:
“For real? You would pass up Johns Hopkins for Wake Forest??? Johns Hopkins has far more prestige in every academic discipline (except business), a much more accomplished and ambitious student body, more social resources given its location in a better city (there are few cities that Baltimore is better than, but Winston-Salem is one of them!), and better graduate school/professional school/employment placement. WFU does have a more traditional campus culture with more school spirit and Div. I athletics in the ACC, but it is the #3 school in NC and the ACC behind Duke and UNC. Hopkins has made dramatic improvements in its campus culture and undergraduate student life in the last 10 years, so it is now not an awful place to spend 4 years–but it is still not a Duke, Georgetown, UVa, Stanford, etc. in terms of quality of life. Quality of life is probably still better at WFU, but I cannot imagine anyone choosing WFU over JHU.”</p>
<p>You missed the “for business” part. Hopkins concedes to Wake in undergraduate business by virtue of not having a selective undergraduate business major on its main campus. By every other academic metric, it destroys Wake. Wake is the third or fourth best college in its own state (somewhere between Duke, Davidson, UNC, and Wake) and pails in comparison in terms of national reputation and academic student awards among the elite research universities.</p>
<p>It’s also great that you know Wake students that chose Wake over Hopkins. But there is this glaring fact:</p>
<p>The TOP 25% of Wake students scored a 1400. For comparison, the average admitted student to Hopkins had a 1480 SAT. I’m sure a significant number of Wake students had the option of Hopkins to begin with.</p>
<p>But most importantly, you argue about the quality of teaching behind the two. You say Wake Forest is not that far behind Hopkins, but do you have quantifiable evidence? This isn’t something people have argued on this thread because it’s almost impossible to compare. I’m not sure how you can qualify the teaching quality between the two schools at all. The only mildly relevant metrics we have for this are post graduation awards, grad school placement, and employment numbers. In that vein, Hopkins does overwhelmingly well compared to Wake again, but perhaps you can offer something quantifiable that’s not based on hearsay to substantiate your assertions?</p>