Way to go, SCOTUS!

I know the jade helm reference, and I certainly know how deep the paranoia runs in some corners of Texas.

Do you suppose “the gays” will be using the abandoned Walmart tunnels to take over Texas? That’s probably why Walmart pulled the battle flags so readily. :wink:

stugace - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

Here is a great funny story… Gay parade participants in London mock ISIS and fool CNN in the process:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/27/cnn-isis-flag-gay-pride_n_7679298.html

I know what Jade Helm is because I read a wacky conservative forum.

Never heard of that term… wow, I learn something new from reading CC almost every day.

Y’all have no idea how relieved I am that there are people who haven’t heard of my crazy neighbors.

I’ve only heard of it because my ex is completely paranoid and always posting stuff like this on Facebook. It came between posts about FEMA camps and something poisoning our water…

Wait wait wait. This jade helm is actually going to happen? Here’s another reason to leave Arizona after college. :open_mouth:

Jade Helm is a real thing. It’s a military training exercise. These happen all the time, and the only thing that’s unusual about this one is its large size.

What Jade Helm is NOT is a scheme by the fedrul govmint to “take over” Texas, or something.

No need to leave Arizona, at least, not because of this. :slight_smile:

As Colonel Potter once said about Colonel Flagg on MASH, “they must eat locoweed for breakfast” in Texas or something, the kind of delusional, paranoid ranting that seems unique to the place is mind boggling, Stephen Colbert in his parody can’t even begin to touch the craziness:).

I think that a lot of clerks will simply go ahead and issue certificates and marry people, the clerks in Texas already doing so are already defying the idiots who are the governor and attorney general, and clerks in Georgia and Alabama are ignoring instructions to defy the order. I have to admit, I would much rather have someone like Lyndon Johnson as president right now, while I don’t know how he would feel about gay rights or the supreme court decision, I think unlike Obama he would delight in going after people like Roy Moore (who quite frankly, should be under arrest by now) and the governor and attorney general of Texas, among many.

Romanigypsyeyes: Of course they are poisoning our water, they are doing it to sap our vital purity of essence and make everyone gay lol (with a special nod to General Jack Ripper:)

Ha! I forgot about Colonel Flagg!!! =)) If only some of the conspiracy theorists would focus more on breaking their own arms and less on some of this other business.

I loved Colonel Flagg, one of my favorite lines is he is getting ready to order out air strikes and ground troops to find a (presumably) kidnapped hot lips, along with a box of scorpions (for a friend), and someone says “why don’t you just drop an atomic bomb” and his response is “hey, don’t try and make friends, it is too late”…sad part is he is rational compared to these idiots. It is kind of sad that the US in many ways is in a world where we are going to need to reinvent ourselves to achieve economic and other power in the world, and we have the handicap of idiots like these morons dragging us down when what we need is a population that can think and act rationally.

Awesome!! Maybe this is an indicator of how fast opinion is changing. Even in the deep South, those govs and AGs can no longer assume that everyone will fall in line with their bigotry. You go, clerks!

Johnson (and Eisenhower) were not only different eras, there was a different mentality- I mean, people could still be dumb, (we know the idiocies of the past,) but there wasn’t the social media frenzy that gave ev-er-y Tom, Dick and Harriet his or her own freaking bullhorn and then blast it all over the freaking world. We may have heard gobbledygook from neighbors or coworkers- or some media report- but not from all corners of the country at once, on our computers. Or smart phones. Or on umpteen cable news channels. And all the loose lipped talk just encourages more people to come out of the woodwork.

True, LF. And I think something really changed with the Southern Strategy that came after Eisenhower & Johnson, which was so successful for a generation that the pols who depended on it to win elections now don’t know how to do anything else. If they were smart, they’d take the gift that SCOTUS handed to them – two gifts, really – and declare these battles done, and move on. But unfortunately, the voters to whom they have to pander won’t let them do that.

I had to laugh when I read this: LA AG James Buddy says he doesn’t have to enforce the ruling because he’d found no specific line in it saying that Louisiana had to obey it. I mean… lol. Who elects people like this? Louisiana, you can do better!

But anyway, SCOTUS is now on notice that in the future it has to be like this:

@lookingforward:

Of course, it is a different world, things spread a lot faster. Back in those days, things would spread by rumor or word of mouth, which is so much less effective than booky-face or twittle dum-twittle dummer and the like:). The same kind of loons existed back then, of course, the John Birch Society (whose attitudes still exist today in the brothers Koch, their old man founded the John Birch society), the red baiters, some of this stuff is not so new. Rumors and conspiracy theories have been around a long time. The difference was that back then, the media was trusted, and with news sources limited, it wasn’t as easy to spread the kind of disinformation you have today.

As far as people being dumb, Mencken’s rule, that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people, still holds true today, and while what political party they belonged to may have changed, the same people we are talking today, the religious right, the tea party types, the New World order paranoids, the pseudo populist rural/farm lobby, existed in Mencken’s time, back then he called them the KKK branch of the Democratic party, these days they are known by a lot of monikers. I don’t think social media necessarily makes more people wacko, I think that it simply as you pointed out gives them many places to vent it, whether it is the net or talk radio or whatnot.

@lasma:

Believe me, I think the GOP leadership and the big money guys right now are sweating bullets, instead of simply saying “you know, we don’t think the court is right, but we have to respect the rule of law, it is now settled law that same sex couples have a right to be married” and moving on to things like foreign policy, terrorism and the economy, the GOP candidates all have come out swinging in one way or another, talking about civil disobediance, talking about an ‘illegal law’ (really? Does that mean Citizen’s united is illegal too?), getting rid of the supreme court, and if this keeps up they know it can mean another defeat the next election cycle because once again they will be dragged down catering to the religious right and the nutjobs. I saw a poll not long ago, where they polled people 40 and under, and asked them what they thought the term conservative meant to them, and they said things like bigoted, mean, uncaring, greedy, ignorant, anti education by a large majority, and that doesn’t bode well when you are trying to take the white house. Attitudes of GOP primary voters in Iowa, Alabama, Mississippi and so forth, might support their stance, but the power brokers know if they keep pressing the issue, if the red states come out looking like George Wallace or Bull connor and the like, it will kill them in national elections.

@musicprnt

We get it that you think everyone who’s not a flaming liberal is evil. But David Koch has been a gay marriage supporter and even signed an amicus brief in favor of gay marriage.

I just saw two consecutive TV commercials which included gay couples. :slight_smile:

ETA – The wonders of the internet… here they are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c33dTK7nUqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV_dwu2PWZM