I think it’s great and I hope they start initiating lawsuits. I don’t see any reason they shouldn’t be able to marry.
There are more people living in polyamorous relationships (the usual term these days, to distinguish it from traditional polygamy with all its anti-feminist implications) than one might think. I know one such family myself.
Hmmm, were you thinking of places like the KSA as examples?
Musicprnt, I’m no Talmudic scholar, but it’s absolutely true that there are many examples of Talmudic reasoning that essentially “legislated” some the harshest aspects of the Hebrew Bible (as in Leviticus) out of existence. For example, the rabbis in the Talmud imposed so many procedural impediments to the application of the death penalty and other physical punishments (requiring multiple witnesses to the crime, etc.) that they made it effectively impossible to carry out.
I have no problem with plural marriages and think they will be the next hurdle.
Then again, I don’t agree with the way that we have benefits tied to marriage in this society. I don’t like privileging married couples over other family forms. (And no, I don’t feel like my family has changed one lick now that the government recognizes my union. I feel the exact same as I did on June 5.)
Keeping plural marriages illegal doesn’t stop them. It just makes them harder to get out of (if you want to) and enables many to collect benefits as though they were a “single” parent/person even though they are not.
God’s Law?
I think we are choosing between people’s law and people’s law. 
I do think the above paragraph explains the difference between most Jews and most Christians. Jews are always questioning. Christians believe.
I have a friend who converted from Christianity to Judaism and she said the biggest issue for her with the conversion is the lack of spirtuality in Judaism. There are a lot of Jews who embrace Buddism or something in thst vein. I know there will be some Jews who disagree.
“Hmmm, were you thinking of places like the KSA as examples?”
Not sure what you mean by KSA…but in general, religious states tend to be some of the most oppressive around (though as they say, you don’t have to be religious to be oppressive, as we found out with the wonderful workers paradises in eastern Europe). What usually happens in the religious leaders get drunk on power, and use the state to fulfill their ideas of suppressing heresy, etc, and in return stay quiet when the state does things that directly contradict the religion and its teachings. You see it in the US, where Bishops are uncomfortable with the Pope criticizing things like the gap between rich and poor, the environment, or criticizing politicians whose stock and trade is demonizing the poor for their lot, in part because the Bishops had aligned themselves with said politicians over social issues like abortion and gay rights.
Judaism has many traditions. Including some with all the spirituality, mysticism, and ecstasy one could want! Something as simple as lighting a Sabbath candle has spiritual aspects. That may be difficult for someone coming from the general non-Jewish mindset of perceiving Judaism as cold, judgmental, and legalistic to see. But I don’t think it’s wise to get into specific discussions of religions too much further, without risking violating the rules here.
@romanigypsyeyes:
I understand where you are coming from, in that marriage has been used as a weapon by more than a few, as in denying interracial couples to marry, or with same sex marriages, but then also ignoring that families come in a variety of ways that may not be reflected with marriage. The problem is finding something that works that will prevent fraud and abuse, for example, in how to register families for benefits and so forth without using marriage or something similar. I guess the best way I could describe it would be kind of like licensing families, where the licensing makes sure they get the benefits they deserve but also makes sure there isn’t fraud, either. I remember the words of an this old black preacher I saw interviewed when I was a kid, and he said he had married people, some with papers and such, some without, and said he never saw where the papers made a family or a marriage, that was the people.
So do I. Two guys, one woman, whome they both seem very fond of. The guys are married to each other.
@dstark:
Not sure what people mean when they say Judaism isn’t spiritual, besides the fact that if you ever have been in a temple when the Cantor is singing, or attended a Seder with a bunch of Jewish friends, or experiences other aspects of the many forms of Judaism, I don’t know where that comes from, the idea it is all legalisms and coldness. Yeah, if you read leviticus it seems like to be Jewish is to live in a minefield where ever step is gonna trip you up, but Judaism is an ever evolving tradition where, at least in my opinion, they read what it is in scripture and then the Rabbis tell people “but what does this mean in your life?”./ In many ways, Christianity is a lot more dogmatic and cold then Judaism (by the way, I am not Jewish, so this isn’t me defending it, I don’t have to nor should I, nothing to defend), take a look at the leadership of the Catholic Church for the past 40 years, and you see rigid dogma defining the faith (not for most Catholics, of course, nor many priests, one long term friend of mine who is a priest, when I mention the hierarchy, rolls his eyes), or you see the born against Christians who say because they believe the right things, because they say the right words, believe the right things, they know God, and it is most decidedly unspiritual, to say the least.
@donnal: I would never claim to be a scholar or claim to know Jewish history, but from what I recall the Talmud came about once the scriptures were ‘locked down’, I seem to remember in the 3rd century BC or so, to allow Rabbinic commentary to try and explain the scriptures, rather than rewriting it, and like church teaching in many Christian sects, it often supercedes it. My favorite expression was one a jewish friend of mine in college used, he said ask 10 Jews what the faith means, you’ll get 20 different answers, and if you ask it each day, 20 different responses from the prior day:)
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
I live in the greater Seattle area… A few years ago one of such families made national headlines after a Newsweek publication.
Speaking of Justice Roberts’s dissent, the author of that article on polyamory lashed out at him for quoting her work in his opinion while missing the point:
Preventing fraud is an argument that has been used since marriage became tied to legal and economic benefits. I’ve been hearing it my whole life as an argument against same sex marriage and it’s old and worn out. It’s also just not true.
The only hurdle against polyamorous relationships being recognized, besides hashing out the legal issues, will be if someone can show just cause other than they don’t like it or Jesus said it shouldn’t happen. I have read the arguments against Polyamory, and most of them seem to be based in the traditional one with one man and multiple wives where the wives quite frankly had no rights, were based in the old traditions of wives as property and so forth, and a lot of that I think can be answered that in a society where women have rights outside marriage, where most women these days work and so forth, that may not be a valid objection, and the abuses can be taken care of in law, too.
I have known more than a few poly families, some with kids, and to be honest while they have their own unique circumstances, the thing I can tell you is that like with a paired relationship, it boils down to the people involved. The families with kids were fine, the kids instinctively seemed to treat the adults as parental figures, and it simply worked , and if it failed, it often was for the same boring reasons paired relationships fail. I don’t think I am wired like that, the thought of two women yelling at me for leaving the toilet seat up or leaving my tools around the house, or worse, another guy fighting for the remote control, just doesn’t appeal grin.
Just fyi, Musicprnt, the Talmud’s two main parts were compiled around 200 C.E. and 500 C.E., respectively – not B.C.E.
Apparently the DMV in Louisiana is refusing to do name changes for same sex married couples.
Musicprnt, I have attended many Seders including my own. I grew up going to an Orthodox Synagogue. 
I have gone to services with cantors but not at the synagogue I went to growing up. I heard a lot of dogma growing up.
My kids were brought up going to a Conservative Synagogue and the difference was quite dramatic from what I experienced. One of my kids was having a Bar Mitzvah. One of the guests turned to me during the service and asked, “Does your rabbi believe in God?”
I found that question amusing. Maybe because I am not sure what the answer was.
I agree with a lot of what you wrote.
Of course they are refusing. They will go out kicking and screaming.
The 5th circuit just issued its ruling upholding the Supreme Court. So there goes one of their excuses for delaying.