<p>"“Drug testing does not apply to the Food Assistance and Medicaid Programs”</p>
<p>Federally funded programs. It is illegal to test applicants for them, though they are means-tested.</p>
<p>" Just try to fake a cannabinoid test… "</p>
<p>This is the drug of choice for most addicts.</p>
<p>Just try to fake it, even a month after using.</p>
<p>If this is what they’re testing for, then they’re stupider than even I thought.</p>
<p>Mini, surely you know enough to bring someone else’s urine sample with you?</p>
<p>This is a political thread if I ever saw one.</p>
<p>The whole line of thought of cheating is idiotic - don’t you think they search you for another sample? </p>
<p>You’re also perpetuating all the reasons why many people don’t want to help you or other needy people. SEE, THEY LIE AND CHEAT!!! GET A JOB.</p>
<p>The test companies make money from doing tests, not from being super-observant. I doubt if they search you, and I doubt if they really watch your sample production process.</p>
<p>And I am not needy, please feel free not to help me.</p>
<p>There are drugs that do not show up on these tests, that many law enforcement individuals are unaware of (for that matter emergency rooms in hospitals are unaware of) and are being sold online under their chemical names.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I know way too much about drugs, selling drugs and beating drug tests. The 2% figure is absurd for any population group.</p>
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<p>I don’t see why its unfair. I had to pass a drug test to get my job. Our terms of employment state that we can be randomly tested at any time. Many (most?) employed people are subject to drug testing – especially State employees. I don’t see a problem with drug testing being a condition of public assistance.</p>
<p>I’ve had drug tests too for employment, but I didn’t have to pay for them.</p>
<p>This policy in Florida discriminates against poor people by assuming they are drug addicts, making them pay for the testing, exempting them from public assistance for a year, and applying this standard to the whole family. And the ACLU is considering a legal challenge to the policy. Read the article more closely if you don’t get it.</p>
<p>"This policy in Florida discriminates against poor people by assuming they are drug addicts, making them pay for the testing, exempting them from public assistance for a year, and applying this standard to the whole family. And the ACLU is considering a legal challenge to the policy. Read the article more closely if you don’t get it. "</p>
<p>The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.</p>
<p>Forgive me, as I am in a hurry,and on a new gadget.</p>
<p>Is two percent suppose to imply a rate higher than the untested general population?</p>
<p>If so, wouldn’t a higher rates of illness expected in this population? </p>
<p>If this is not an illness, than why is ADD, Aspergers, and all the other labels we support in our special interests forums here on CC?</p>
<p>Yes, the tests can be fooled, but the industry that specializes in these tests are much better at it than most. And the are drugs that are most among the frequent fliers aren’t that easy to hide among the most impaired.</p>
<p>Again, the drug testing industry has no interest in catching drug users, only in getting the fee for the test.</p>
<p>To establish that only 2% of people applying for welfare have recently used drugs would require a lot more robust data than that provided.</p>
<p>The 2% figure is indeed absurdly low for any group. Even DEA employees would test positive at a higher rate than that.</p>
<p>I guarantee you DocT knows exactly what he is talking about. And anyone who has taken a drug test under the usual conditions (ie, someone is not standing there, watching you pee), knows how easy it would be to fake a drug test. Or maybe people manage to stay clean for awhile and drink a whole lot of water right before the drug test. I don’t know if drug testing is appropriate for welfare recipients or not, but it is obvious if you think about it for two seconds that it would be easy to fake it.</p>
<p>Cannabinoids are stored in fat. You could drink the entire Pacific Ocean, and it wouldn’t make one iota of difference.</p>
<p>“the usual conditions”? Usual where?</p>
<p>Any program I’ve been involved in ( court referred rehab, and I think juvenile justice) includes watching you pee, and checking the temp of the sample. There are also tests for adulterants. And then there is hair testing.</p>
<p>Same here. We monitor methadone and buprenorphine clients VERY closely. People who think folks regularly beat the tests don’t know what they are talking about. It’s all bravado and big talk. Doesn’t happen (or at least not very often.)</p>