<p>Many of the Ivies are well, well below Berkeley and UCLA in prestige and international renown. For example few people west of the Hudson ever heard of an Ivy League school called Penn (and if they have, they think it’s Penn State) or Dartmouth. Brown is a color, not a school, for much of the country & English speaking world. </p>
<p>Fact is, of the Ivies, the only really well known outside of the east coast are Harvard, Yale, Princeton and maybe Columbia.</p>