<p>If you have a brilliant child and they go to Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Berkeley, UCLA or Reed, they will probably get a lot out of their education and lead successful lives. To predict which is the best for you or someone else is merely a prediction; and predictions, predilictions, and inclinations are not the same as facts.</p>
<p>The Ivy League was coined to describe a football league but that league was developed by colleges that agreed to avoid sport scholarships so that intellectual pursuits would not be overshadowed by football. It was always about providing an excellent education.</p>
<p>FYI Shirley Chisholm went to Brooklyn College, Robert Matsui went to Berkeley and Hasting’s Law. I hope my kids learn enough to make the kind of impact these people had on our country.</p>
<p>I knew somone who was recruited by a soccer coach for an Ivy League school and the coach told him how to fill out his scholarship app so he would get money. this is with a 1210 SAT. So this thing that the Ivy League don’t give out sports schlorships is a huge lie. If a coach wants you, you’re in and you will get a scholarship if that’s what you want. They just don’t call it a athletic scholarships but they are still the same thing.</p>
<p>Ivyleaguer- 1210 SAT, thats not bad for a recruit. The average SAT score of Duke’s basketball team is 960. And the ivy league does not give out athletic scholarships, financial aid is completely independent of athletics. Why do you think its so hard for the ivies to compete while Stanford and Duke can prosper? The coach helped him fill out his fin aid app, how is that an athletic scholarship? You can always manipulate your fin aid forms to get more aid, athlete or not.</p>
<p>this is so rediculous. everyone is going to have their own idea of the best colleges and what qualifies as elite. While some schools are indisputably “elite”, it’s really frivolous to argue over what belongs in that category. oh, and not to mention pretentious. especially whoever graded the schools. that was proposterous. you can’t just split schools up into categories based on their selectivity and say that that’s what qualifies them as the best college/university. there a countless other factors that come into play and that are different for everyone.</p>
<p>average for SAT for students at stanford is around 1050. That was a few years back, and now it is probably around 1100. Thats the highest SAT score of any school for recruits.</p>
<p>I don’t believe that an 1100 is the highest SAT average for all schools for recruits. Everything I have read about Ivy League recruiting indicates otherwise. That could possibly be true for the major sports only, but I bet the Ivy League average is at least 1200.</p>
<p>There are several universities in the West coast that are comparable to the Ivy League:</p>
<p>California Institute of Technology
Claremont McKenna College
Harvey Mudd College
Pomona College
Reed College
Stanford University
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Los Angeles</p>
<p>Many other schools are excellent but not quite there. Schools like:</p>
<p>Occidental College
Pitzer College
Scripps College
University of California-Davis
University of California-Irvine
University of California-San Diego
University of California-Santa Barbara
University of Washington
Whitman College</p>
<p>Deep Springs College is a two-year program…and an amazing one at that. I have a couple friends who attended it. They loved it, but it is for very special people. I mean, how many 17-18 year old boys do you know want to spend 2 years of their lives in the desert with another 20 or so 18-20 year old boys, away from civilization, television and women! LOL</p>
<p>Ye…Alexandre…you are probably right in terms of the social life part.</p>
<p>BUT a lot of people WILL choose Deep Springs because it’s also
Tuition free… Completely FREE…
(Application Fee Free as well )</p>
<p>IMHO, it’s at least worth mentioning in such a thread about west coast elite schools. Deep Springs is one the the most selective college in this nation and provides one of the best academic experience…
Hehe, totally agree with you about the “self-selected” part.</p>
<p>btw…i know 2 out of 15 people (13%) in my class applied there and one got into the second round…for the previous few yrs, 3 ppl in my school applied…
Albeit i also have to admit that my high school is a bit unusual as well…VERY like Deep Springs… away from civilization, away from tv/dvd, not away from girls though…lol</p>
<p>Pimpdaddy, my point was that if you’re an athlete and the ivy league school wants you, you’re going to get in and get financial aid if you want it regardless of your grades.</p>
<p>The Ivies self report to each other about the financial aid their athletes recieve and the need based on the standard financial submissions … so blatant cheating would be quite obvious. (Could a school wiggle a little around the edges? Sure, but no kid from a home making $250,000 is getting $40,000 to play football)</p>
<p>When I hear comments about the IVY league only being an athletic conference it makes me want to laugh. First, the referecence to IVY came way before the conference was set up. Second, the IVYies agree to approaches on many things beyond athletics (such as only providing need based aid - there are no merit scholarships to IVYies for any reason). Finally, while the IVY league is a sports conference it imposes much harsher restrictions than the NCAA … no scholarships, less practice time, less recruiting, fewer games, fewer mid-week games, higher minimum academic standards for athletes, and so on … the IVYies want to win but as a group they also want to keep athletics from overtaking the students lifes (especially compared to other DI programs)</p>
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