Oh, @Chrchill - if only I had standing to say that UChicago is irrelevant! Please remember, I didn’t say that - Stanford’s Admissions Dean Richard Shaw did - by not even including Chicago in its list of Stanford’s top 20 admissions competitors. (Penn made the list, though - at like #19 - go UPenn!)
Also, @Chrchill - @PennCAS2014 is making cute comparisons between Penn and your alma mater (Harvard) again. Want to address this?
@PennCAS2014 - your use of “vast majority” and ivy smarminess is cute. You really do give credence to the New Repubic’s declaration of UPenn as the most insecure ivy! (https://newrepublic.com/article/120185/inside-americas-number-1-party-school-university-pennsylvania)
Please note, the “vast majority” of students (and faculty) at any top 25 private college are pretty much the same - from Harvard to Vanderbilt to Penn and Emory. But that’s probably not the reason you went to Penn, or why most go to Harvard, is it? It’s to mingle with those off-the-charts students, faculty, and future world changers, and maybe become one yourself.
Guess what? These are in the minority at any top college, but there’s a much higher percentage of them at Harvard than Penn. (Or Harvard and Vanderbilt.) And that’s what makes Harvard, Harvard.
Anyway, enjoy knowing that the “vast majority” of Penn students are identical to Harvard students! Could you promise me, though, that the next time I compare Penn to Emory, you don’t come blazing to Penn’s defense? And why would you? The vast majority of Emory and Penn students are pretty much interchangeable.
(Finally, I’m not writing to say I have the definitive word on the Penn undergrad experience. Rather, Im trying to present counterpoints - points actually raised by those with considerable knowledge - that undermine the constant elation that @Penn95 and you have about UPenn. For whatever reason [insecurity?] the Penn [and Chicago] blowhards seem to be the worst.)