Johnson & Wales came in at 25k for my D23 who had a 3.4, 1000 SAT.
Was that need based? Itās unclear whether the now MIA OP qualified for need based aid.
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For Johnson & Wales? No, our family is not eligible for anything need based, anywhere.
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Update-she just got into UVM! Turns out she was a part of that 0.07%! Woohoo. Thanks for your unwavering support and kindness.
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Congrats to you - I admit with a 2.8, Iām very surprised. But this is certainly not a science.
If your student decides to attend, I hope they came through for you budget wise.
Best of luck.
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They mudt have recalculated her GPA based on what they know of her school and factored in rigor 
Congratulations to her!
Does she have preferences?
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Congratulations!! I hope this comes in at your price point.
And what do you mean by this:
she was part of that 0.07%
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If you look at the latest CDS for UVM, section C11, and it appears to use a weighted GPA given the high amount of 4.0s (I canāt tell if the 2.8 was weighted or unweighted), .07% had a GPA of 2.5-2.99. Everyone else - so the other 99.93% had at least a 3.0.
In fact, only 1.59% had less than a 3.25.
So either this was a miscalc of their GPA - or as the OP wrote - they are in that .07%. I surmised youāre an athlete or a hook to be even in that 1.59%, let alone the .07%.
Either way, OP got an admit they wanted so thatās wonderful and yes, āchance mesā are certainly not a science but rather an opinion. I see in the title they are OOS and need under $20K so I hope, if itās an option they are interested in, that the story ends happily with an offer to allow them to attend.
Congrats to OP on their acceptance.
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This is incredibly rude. Schools practice holistic admissions and itās not all about GPA. Perhaps the kid wrote an amazing essay?
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Iām not sure why itās rude. The OP wrote back to my initial comment and I wrote back - yes, I was wrong - and that I thought to get in with that GPA you needed a hook. I admitted error.
Iām simply stating that - statistically - the # of enrollees or admittees of someone with under a 3 GPA are a .07% (so 7 one hundredths of 1 %) so itās unlikely a student with a GPA under a 3 would get admitted. And a 2.8 is a distance from a 3.
Itās not a comment based on the student themselves.
Itās a data driven assessment.
I would make the same comment about a kid who had a 3.5 and 1400 and applied to Harvard, etc.
Iām not commenting on the student - their quality or skillset. Iām commenting on the reality of an admission decision based on statistics the school has published.
Assuming the student does have a weighted 2.8 in how UVM determines the GPA, then the student outperformed the statistics.
There is no emotion (or rudeness) based on that comment.
But you are entitled to your opinion but you are misreading the intent of my comment. The OP was stating to me - that yes - they were in the .07% and you goofed - and I was simply acknowledging.
Nonetheless, the student is in, I congratulated them, and I hope the school financially becomes an option.
Thank you.
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No, youāre saying that the kid is probably an athlete or first gen/low income student and thatās why they were admitted. That is EXACTLY what you wrote. Which, by the way, is also rude to athletes and FGLI kids.
Congrats to OPās daughter. Wishing her the best!
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Iām hypothesizing that kids who get in well below the averages typically have hooks - yes.
Again, you are misreading - that was my initial hypothesis - and Iām saying they beat the odds. The OP responded to my previous comment.
Itās no different a comment than I read 100 times a day on this website - so and so can only get in with a hook, etc. Itās also what colleges note in their CDS (in regards to first gen, etc).
Nonetheless, whatever the situation is - is not relevant. OP is in - theyāve been wished good luck and congratulations.
Please donāt attack other posters. Itās against the rules. Youāre entitled to your disagreement and itās fine. But no need to attack.
Iām not attacking. Iām defending. Iāve said what needed to be said. Now Iām done.
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@Notyouraveragemama a hearty congratulations on a great acceptance.
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Congratulations. Your daughterās acceptance was undoubtedly based on her own achievements and efforts. She found a way to stand out in a crowded and talented pool!!
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@Notyouraveragemama, is UVM the final decision? If not, please update us and the reason for the decision. I think it is great she has a few options. Congrats.
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Bravo! Congrats!!!
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Congratulations to your D @Notyouraveragemama! UVM is a great school. Is the budget still $20k?
I think @tsbna44 was using āyouāreā here with the intention of using āone is,ā though he will have to confirm. Thus, when he saw that 0.07% of first-year students had a GPA below a 3.0, he assumed that those students were hooked somehow. I have made that same assumption before when looking at Common Data Sets, and I think that generally there is something particular about applicants that are on a very small tail below a schoolās typical stats (whether itās an athletic skill, Oscar in the closet, etc). OPās D obviously has something amazing about her because she made it into that very select group, though I think all can admit that she was up against some very long odds.
With that said, a big congrats to Notyouraveragedaughter!
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Congrats on UVM! Iām a very happy alum who thoroughly enjoyed my time in Burlington. From your description of what she wants, it seems like UVM will be a great option and we know recent grads who were very happy with the academic support services. Burlington is a great college town. I think there is a also a good chance she will get into UMaine with lower COA than UVM.
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Congrats OP!
Thatās likely true! My daughter is at UMaine, and they basically matched SUNY.
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