Good luck to you and apply widely but since both Architectural Engineering and Architecture majors are more niche, there are less school options especially if you want to stay in California.
Architectural Engineering will most likely fall under Civil Engineering, Construction Engineering or Structural Engineering so with those majors you will have more school options.
Cal Poly Pomona’s CPP index for Civil engineering was 4337 so you would have a better chance for that major. CPP does consider alternate majors so you can select Architecture as your first choice and Civil Engineering as your alternate.
Here is a CSU Impaction Matrix and you can see which campuses do not have Engineering impacted majors. These campuses would most likely be Likely/Safety and Target schools for you.
UC Davis has a Construction Engineering minor.
University of Arizona and University of Colorado, Boulder offer Architectural Engineering.
I am sure @MaineLonghorn can give you more advice regarding Architectural Engineering but SLO is the only CSU that specifically offers that major.
You can google to find a more complete list, but other good schools for Arch E are Kansas State University, the University of Kansas, and Penn State.
It really is a good major. I enjoyed it a lot. I could concentrate on the areas I was interested in. Construction Management is an option under Arch E, and it’s a good career, too.
If you’re looking for architecture programs, @Mashinations gave you the best link.
If you’re looking for engineering programs (whether architectural, civil, etc.), looking at ABET-accredited programs will probably be your best bet: https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search
There are 28 schools in the U.S. that are ABET-accredited for a bachelor’s in architectural engineering. Besides Cal Poly - SLO, the other closest ones would be U. of Arizona, U. of Colorado, and U. of Wyoming.
There are 24 schools in the U.S. that are ABET-accredited for construction engineering. There’s Cal Poly - Pomona and San Diego State are the Cali options, with Arizona State, U. of New Mexico, U. of Utah, and U. of Hawaii as some options within WUE schools (though check to see if the major is WUE eligible at each school).
For civil engineering, there are 68 accredited programs in WUE states (though not necessarily at WUE schools), and 307 schools in the U.S.
Is your interest in staying in California because you want to stay geographically close or is it finances or weather? If you let us know more about what you’re interested in in a college (school size, class sizes, urban/suburban/college town/rural, athletic spirit, Greek life, etc) as well as your budget, we can help to narrow in on some additional possibilities for you to consider.
if possible, i’d like to stay in/close to california, but im also open to going to other states. I don’t really have a preference but i’d like to go to somewhere that isnt really cold. as for budget, maybe around $40,000 max?
University of Arizona would seem like an easy admit for some kids to the B.Arch program. But reading through their site it’s not unlike what Auburn does.
They direct admit you to BArch without a portfolio and so long as you have the GPA for the school. you take your first year of courses and depending on how you do on those courses (there’s more information on the site but basically how you perform in Studio, Portfolio, Grades, etc), there is a cut-down.
Not suggesting that’s a bad approach but it’s something to have eyes wide open going in.
Milestone
Admission from Foundation to the Professional Phase is done via a Milestone, which certifies architectural aptitude. It comprises a portfolio review and grade calculation. Up to 90 qualified students are advanced to Core studies each year.
Thanks for pointing that out, I missed that. A couple other programs I’ve looked at do that too. I guess ultimately if the student has the right mix of design talents and academics they’ll make the cut. I do see the attraction for a student who wants to do a BArch but for whatever reason (gpa or not enough opportunity in high school to get a decent portfolio together) is not competitive enough for some of the other programs.
Btw the auto admit for BArch is higher than the general university requirement, which is 3.0 (arch will consider applicants between 3.0 and 3.5 holistically though).
Completely agree… and I can’t speak to any other program than the one where we attended the information session and I asked some pretty pointed questions about it - Auburn. Architecture programs are generally regulated in size by the number of studio spots they have (a kid gets assigned a desk). It’s not like a business program where they can just add another section of Financial Accounting. So I questioned Auburn about how the cut was determined and got a lot of “it depends” and “there is an opportunity to re-take…” answers.
A BArch student is already signing up for a 5 year program where most of the first year courses won’t carry for credit into a different program. To be in a potential situation where at the end of the first year you’re told not only are you not able to continue in your desired program BUT now you’re starting over in a different program where you’ll be for 4 years knocked it down the personal ranking.
Agree totally, and I understand anecdotally that BArch’s have a relatively high washout rate anyway because of the intensity of the courses (all reasons my own kid is looking to do a bs majoring in arch rather than a b arch). But I am guessing also there are a number of people it works well for. I guess a question to ask any colleges who cut like this is what the approximate percentage of those applying to continue are successful.
I think it’s also worth looking at fit for bs/ba - I think you know much more about this than we do but from our initial research, it seems these are more varied in focus than the BArch programs - with some programs maybe a bit more math/physics, some more interested in the cultural and historical context etc around arch, and some are more focused on the arty aspects of design. For a student whose alternate interest is engineering, I’m guessing not all these would be of equal interest.
A BA/BS in Architecture is going to be similar to a BA/BS in any other type of program. There’s going to be a certain number of core classes that have to be taken, some electives - maybe a concentration and then all the Gen-Ed core courses and Gen-Ed electives. The 4 year programs we looked at, they all had one of the concentrations centered on someone intending to go M-Arch - so it will be more design focused and helping to build a portfolio, etc. The studio classes are more than likely going to be 3 credit hour and usually 4-6 semesters worth.
I would expect Architectural Engineering - though I’ve not looked heavily into it - to be about the same except much more math/science focused over design.
Just about every school will list the expected courses for the different programs and the names of the courses listed should give a good indication where the focus is.
B-Arch curriculums typically go one step further and reflect, by semester, when most courses are to be taken. Almost universally the studio is 10 semesters @ 6 credit hours.
There’s lots of different options out there for sure!
For your majors of interest, these appear to be the main WUE options. I’ve listed the tuition price, but room & board would be extra. I imagine that all of these would fall within budget.
Colorado State: $21,670 for WUE students. Includes construction management, civil engineering, interior architecture and design,
Montana State: $9,086 for WUE students. Includes majors in architecture/environmental design, civil engineering, construction engineering technology, environmental design.
North Dakota State: $13,963 tuition for WUE students. Options, but likely too cold for your preference.
Oregon State: $17,190 tuition for WUE students, but this is competitive to get. WUE also applies to construction Engineering Management, civil engineering
Portland State: $13,973 tuition for WUE. Majors included are architecture, art & design, civil engineering,
South Dakota State: $11,283 for WUE tuition. Many options, but likely too cold for your preference.
U. of Colorado – Denver: $22,275 for WUE tuition. Major options include architecture, civil engineering, construction engineering and management, construction management,
U. of Hawaii – Manoa: $16,956 tuition for WUE students. Includes civil engineering, construction engineering, environmental design/architecture,
U. of Idaho: $9,810 tuition for WUE students. Includes architecture, civil engineering, environmental design, interior architecture & design
U. of Nevada – Las Vegas: $11,813 tuition for WUE students. Includes majors in architecture, civil engineering, construction management, interior architecture and design.
U. of New Mexico: $12,756 tuition for WUE students. Includes majors in architecture, civil engineering, construction engineering, construction management, environmental design/architecture
U. of Utah: $13,655 tuition for WUE students. Majors include architectural studies, civil engineering, and design.
U. of Wyoming: $7470 tuition for WUE students. Architectural engineering, civil engineering, construction management
Utah State: $11,081 tuition for WUE students. Majors include civil engineering, interior architecture and design
Utah Valley: $8,421 tuition for WUE students. Majors include architecture, a certification in architectural design tech, art & design, civil engineering, construction management
Would you be open to states like Oklahoma, Kansas, or Nebraska? Or states in the southeastern U.S.? I’m trying to figure out how close is “close” for California and/or the preference for warm weather.
won’t Montana state also be too cold if Dakota is?
not familiar with a number of those names but I believe CU Denver is largely a commuter campus - some of those others may be too, in case this is important to OP.
Like Arizona, entrance to the architecture major at university of Utah only takes place after completing certain other requirements.
My impression is that the cold of the northern plains can be felt more than in the mountains, but Montana State may well be too cold as well.
I think there is a decent contingent of commuters at CU Denver (and also UNLV). I’ve heard that there is a residential community surrounding the music school, and perhaps for other specialized programs, there are. It is definitely worth investigating atall the schools.
thank you! i would prefer staying in the west so that it’d be easier to reach my family in case of emergencies, but i would also consider southeastern US! Ik there are a lot of great schools in the northeast, but i fear itd be too cold for me there