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<p>That’s the case no matter how you define problem drinking.</p>
<p>What does one call it when you have a cold beer or two after running or a long bike ride or an afternoon of yard work.?I call it motivation whether I’m alone or with other people! It’s probably the only time I have alcohol without food. </p>
<p>^^^I don’t think it needs a label any more than going out for a cup of coffee after seeing a Broadway play does. </p>
<p>I’m not a beer drinker, but that actually sounds good, ha ha.</p>
<p>I admit that when I’m stuck running on the dreadmill I watch the “calories burned” and track how many IPAs I’ve
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<p>“What does one call it when you have a cold beer or two after running or a long bike ride or an afternoon of yard work.?”</p>
<p>It is called having a recovery drink. ;)</p>
<p>Reward!</p>
<p>I really think the “reason” why a person drinks is a huge part of the distinction. </p>
<p>I have a case of beer and two big jars of cashew nuts in the house. I drank a beer and decided not to have another, but I just can’t stop eating the cashews …</p>
<p>Some of the perspectives on this thread are very interesting to me.</p>
<p>I grew up in a home where my parents had wine with dinner every night (my dad is European). We were allowed to have a few sips by the time we were in high school, but outside of that I never experimented with alcohol the way a lot of my classmates did. My dad, who is now almost 85, probably has two glasses a night starting around 5 pm. He lives alone. Does that make it a “problem,” since he is not drinking “socially” (i.e., with others?). For the record, he is one of the healthiest elderly people I know and looks and acts at least 10 years younger than he is.</p>
<p>My American grandmother came from a social set where everyone drank a lot. Her drink of choice was gin and tonics. She had one long-time male suitor who would come over now and then to visit. He was frail and hard of hearing. She would tell me, “ask Sam if he would like another drink. If he says no, that means make it a double.” My grandmother too lived on her own for decades, so her drinking most of the time was not “social” either. She lived to be 96.</p>
<p>I live in the midwest now, where people in general drink a LOT. It amazes me how many working adults talk about purposely getting drunk on the weekend. There is so little stigma. I see that as a bigger problem than what people do in their homes, because of course they are going to bars and then getting on the road and driving. </p>
<p>“I live in the midwest now, where people in general drink a LOT. It amazes me how many working adults talk about purposely getting drunk on the weekend. There is so little stigma. I see that as a bigger problem than what people do in their homes, because of course they are going to bars and then getting on the road and driving.”</p>
<p>Hw old are these people?? I think there’s a HUGE stigma over talking about getting faced on the weekend. It seems incredibly immature. </p>
<p>I’d say up to about 35 or so? And mostly those without families. I work with a lot of young people. But I do have a couple of friends our age who can easily drink a bottle of wine in an evening–they just wouldn’t talk about it publicly. </p>
<p>I don’t think a random question on a medical form is intended to weed out alcoholics. If it is it’s doomed to failure anyway.</p>
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I am always intrigued by the use of the word “immature” - it implies that some people, no longer desiring to do a certain act, believe that said act must therefore be unacceptable to everyone for them to qualify as an adult. Why is that?</p>
<p>I might get genuinely drunk perhaps two or three times a year. I feel neither shame nor remorse when I do, I take steps to make sure I do so in a responsible and safe manner, and I have generally had a really good time.</p>
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why do get drunk?</p>
<p>The only time I have ever felt “intoxicated” was when I was 18 and watching the guest book at my cousin’s wedding. We hadn’t yet eaten, and the waiter kept filling my glass. When I went to stand up, it was like, whoa! never again</p>
<p>"I might get genuinely drunk perhaps two or three times a year. I feel neither shame nor remorse when I do, I take steps to make sure I do so in a responsible and safe manner, and I have generally had a really good time.:</p>
<p>Well, good for you. I think that’s embarrassing and immature to get “genuinely drunk” (which is different from relaxing or having a little buzz). But if you’re truly good with it, what do you care what my opinion is? </p>
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Because sometimes I am at parties where the alcohol is free-flowing and where I put more effort into having fun than in carefully evaluating my alcohol intake. I am not trying to get drunk, but I am not surprised when it happens, and when going to these parties I always make arrangements to (for example) get home safely.</p>
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Again, not sure why it is immature, and I have it on good authority that drunk I am not really any more embarrassing than I am sober.</p>
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As an individual, I don’t - you and I will likely never interact in a way in which your opinion on this would cause me any grief. But I sometimes speak on issues beyond their direct impact on my own life. It is just one of the many services I provide.</p>
<p>cosmicfish, I understand what you are saying. I have friends who have epic dinner parties where guests who live in walking distance (or are staying at their house) will enjoy the free-flowing wine at dinner and after-dinner drinks later. This of course is over the span of many hours. These are educated, responsible people. I don’t do this because a) I have to drive home and b) I do not like the feeling of a hangover. In any case, I don’t think they (or you) have any reason to be embarrassed.</p>
<p>I don’t think a random question on a medical form is intended to weed out alcoholics. If it is it’s doomed to failure anyway.>>>>>>></p>
<p>And then the doctor is wondering what is causing the eleveated liver enzymes. 
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<p>The Q probably “has” to be included, but let’s get real… </p>
<p>The “problem drinker” is in denial, so no honest answer will be forthcoming. The recovering alcoholic will likely be honest, but that person is now sober. Everyone else pretty much falls into the occasional, glass with dinner, a drink at a party to be social, or similar drinker.</p>
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<p>Well, don’t we all love to have fun at parties??? Why do you associate “putting more effort into having fun” with free-flowing alcohol??? If they had free-flowing chocolate would you stuff yourself with that?</p>