I answered that on the first page - post 9 
@skieurope thank you
āFrom the Harvard Crimson:
The Harvard Crimson, this yearās board anyway, is not known for its unbiased reporting.
I have no dog in this fight. I donāt know Ronald Sullivan or Stephanie Robinson from a hole in the wall and I donāt live in Winthrop House. To the best of my knowledge, I never set foot in Winthrop. That said, I never even heard whispers of what the Crimson reported before it was actually in print.
If, and this is a big if, Sullivan is an ineffective administrator, Khurana could have done a much better job organizing a transition.ā
Thinking critically, the Crimson seems to have hard and damaging data about S.
The Crimson, like many users on this thread, conflates the issues. If having a revolving door on the House Administratorās office is indicative of poor administrative skills, the not renewing his Faculty Deanship may have been the correct move. Although I would suggest that such an issue should have been evident when his first term came up for renewal in 2014.
If Harvard/Rakesh Khurana/Winthrop House residents/[insert your own group here] felt that defending Harvey Weinstein was somehow more problematic than defending Aaron Hernandez, then that is a totally separate issue. So for me as an observer, it is not surprising that there are many who feel that Sullivan and Robinson were thrown under the #metoo bus
Looking more broadly at the group of administrators I have seen at my own university, I can say that it is not unusual for a person to be reappointed at the end of the first five-year term (a common appointment length), even though some problems may have been evident. It is also not unusual if the person is not reappointed the second time. This happens even in cases when there has been no precipitating cause or change in anything in the second term.
So while I agree with skieurope that issues should have been evident when an administratorās first term came up for renewal (although I have no independent knowledge of whether there were other issues in this particular case), I can say that issues very often seem to be overlooked at the first reappointment.
When did this bruhaha start? April? May? If H was planning on not renewing him BEFORE this Weinstein thing, I would think that process would have started sooner than April. There would be meetings, notes, records, etc. H could easily have saved face by producing that info when this blew up.
^^It is a personnel matter and should be tried in the press. Harvard may not be able to release all the info that went into a personnel decision.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-reopening-of-the-liberal-mind-11558732547
Excellent article on the liberal and longstanding President of Bard College, Leon Botstein.
No one will confuse him with any neoncon. This is Bard we are talking about.
He thinks the Dean was rolled over by fearful leadership and itās more pervasive than just this one instance.
This sort of thing isnāt allowed at his school and he believes it is in the great liberal tradition to stand up to these pressures.
And as he says, they are a financially poor college in comparison but still show courage.
Speaks to why this case bothers me and itās not a Harvard specific issue. But they are the 1000lb gorilla and could have gotten this right imho.
FYI. To avoid the paywall. Turn on incognito on your google browser. Upper right hand corner in the settings tool kit (gear emoji).
Type in āLeon Botstein WSJā.
The article will appear in full.
My reaction was: If Harvard caves in to this kind of pressure, itās a bad sign. What particularly galls me is that they also removed Prof Sullivanās wife from the deanship. So, if their kid was occupying lets say Residence Assistant position at the same dorm, their kid would have been removed from the RA position also? Everyone is for upholding ideals until they are involved. You canāt just teach these ideals and not practice them. You canāt just do something because itās convenient at the moment.
Harvard Faculty Deans are a joint appointment, so when you lose one, you lose both.
In this hypothetical situation, since Harvard does not have RAs in the sense of undergraduate proctors, the kid would not lose his position since itās a separate appointment.
Privatebanker you should be bothered by Leon botsteins termination of joel korvo for his political viewpoints. I think botstein speaks from his own experience in acting in what is viewed as a similar manner
Why do we keep moving the goalposts?
Not familiar with that case. But if he acted in the same manner I would hold the same view of the action. That isnāt the issue being discussed and perhaps he learned from that situation. But I have a sneaking suspicion that the facts of the matter were quite different. But I will look into it.
Two wrongs donāt make a right.
One-Fifth of Winthrop Seniors Opt Out of Receiving Diplomas From Sullivan, Robinson
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/5/31/winthrop-commencement-sullivan-diplomas/
Why is there even an option? Either go to the ceremony or get the document mailed to you.
I keep going back to my original statement on the first page: āThe inmates are running the asylum.ā
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/22266366/#Comment_22266366
For shame. They must feel unsafe with the handoff of the diploma.
What is ironic is that I am sure 99% of these students wrote some thing about curiosity, tolerance, empathy, open-mindedness and/or respect in one of their application essays. To be only tolerant of, and empathetic to, people who agree with you is not being tolerant or empathetic at all. I fully support students who question and challenge actions or positions taken by others, including well known professors. But this should be done in an an environment of respectful discourse where we listen and absorb as well as try to make and support our point. To not accept their diplomas from Sullivan and Robinson is a disrespectful act of a child throwing a temper tantrum. What horrible thing have Sullivan and Robinson done to them personally to justify this very personal insult? To me it is a cowardly act of trying to virtue signal how PC they are in most cases. For shame. I wonder how their parents feel? Horrified like I would be, or are they the proud enablers of this batch of privileged self righteous snowflakes.
The entitlement the students portray is truly alarming.
Sadly, and while they are a distinct minority, I have met many parents who fall into the latter group.
My D graduated last year from Harvard. She didnāt live in Winthrop . She knew lots of people who did though.
I would be a proud supporter of her if she boycotted the event if she was there this year. Calling kids of principal snowflakes is insulting and morally wrong. They have the guts to stand up for what they believe is right. In my book Sullivan and his wife who wanted to hold three jobs at once were simply greedy and grossly inconsiderate of the students in the house they were supposed to serve.