Wow thanks…Most people have never even heard of it…frankly many Drs have never heard of it as you probably know. Not to hi jack thread but maybe we should start one about silent disabilities/health issues and colleges. Lots of kids out there fighting battles nobody sees.
Stanford is basically like every other school that has big time athletics. Academic shortcuts are available to make it easier for the athletes. I’m not arguing if they are deserved or not just that they are there. If you want to pick a school that doesn’t have shortcuts for athletes try MIT.
Re: ucbalumnus #124: Of course, it is an advantage to have dual Ph.D. parents, relative to students who encounter high barriers to achievement.
I would guess that quite a few admissions staffers now are second-generation college, or more. One or both of their parents quite likely attended college. I was really referring to the possible advantages that admissions staffers might not share, and how they interpret their values. In this context, I think that admissions staffers may overestimate the educational advantages conferred by having dual Ph.D. parents, relative to having one or both college-educated parents (but not both Ph.D.s).
A student with two parents in STEM is probably more likely than most to have completed multi-variable calculus pre-college. Parents who remember multi-variable calculus may be able to field a question or two that others could not. They may be more inclined to allow radical acceleration in math (or not). So that could be an advantage. But no one I know has acquired multi-variable calculus by osmosis, or simply growing up in a household where multi-variable calculus is known to the parents.
@twoinanddone lol I remember reading that Willingham said when she was a tutor for athletes, there were a couple that she had to teach LETTERS and SOUNDS
“Wow thanks…Most people have never even heard of it…frankly many Drs have never heard of it as you probably know. Not to hi jack thread but maybe we should start one about silent disabilities/health issues and colleges. Lots of kids out there fighting battles nobody sees.”
You should be able to disclose the disability to colleges, they cannot reject students based on having one as it violates the ADA. Also if colleges see that students do well with a representative courseload (doesn’t have to be rigorous) given the disability, that should be a good thing. Students with disabilities can get extra support, tutors, maybe single dorm rooms. Talk with your GC on that. Good luck!
But is it ever wrong to give someone the education that they need? Should someone not learn to swim at age 30 because most people learn at a younger age? The university shouldn’t issue a degree for not completing university level work and the athlete can’t continue to play if he isn’t making academic progress toward a degree. Kids who can’t read or write can’t go to an NCAA D1 or D2 school because they can’t get the minimum ACT score needed. They might have been passed through high school courses with passing grades, but they have to prove their academic ability on the ACT/SAT.
I’ve watched both seasons of Last Chance U. It is certainly not the experience anyone on CC wants their kids to have, athletically or academically, but many of the players said, over and over, that if it wasn’t for athletics they wouldn’t go to school at all, that they’d do nothing. Not just not go to school, they’d do nothing. I think it is better for them to be in school, learning their letters and sounds if that’s what they need. Yes, they should have learned to read and write in 3rd grade, but they didn’t. They aren’t going to Stanford or Duke or even a public directional. They can’t move on to a 4 year school (which is the goal) unless they complete the minimum levels academically.
And even if they do pass out of JUCO, they still aren’t going to Stanford. Wisconsin lost a coach over admitting JUCO kids. My daughter’s team lost two recruits because they couldn’t get admitted academically to our school, but they met the NCAA minimums because they play at a conference rival. Schools can set standards above the NCAA minimums. And they do.
"Stanford is unique among top schools in that its the only true D1 school that offers athletic scholarships, not bond by the ivy rules. As a result it probably has the greatest difference between its best and worst academic performers, certainly no place for “average excellence”.
Stanford’s not quite unique. The list for very high academics plus full bore D1 scholarship athletics (including Power 5 football) would be Stanford, Duke, NW, ND, Vandy.
If you expand the parameters a bit, you could also add Rice, Gtown, USC, Cal, UCLA, UVA, UNC, UM, Wake and BC.
These all have very high grad rates and provide a LOT of academic support to their athletes to keep it that way.
@theloniusmonk - While a school cannot deny an applicant one he basis of a disability, the student has to be “otherwise qualified” for admission before the disability, and need for any accommodation, will be considered. All applicants must meet the admission standards first, and accommodations will be considered later (there are a few situations in schools like Marist, where the disability program has a separate application and sometimes they may speak to the admissions office if they feel an applicant can meet admission requirements).
The ACT/SAT requirements are not that big hurdle for NCAA eligibility, if you have a 2.5 gpa in core classes, you’d need an 820 on the SAT, 22-ish on the ACT. So it can be done even if you’re at 8th or 9th grade reading level when entering college.