<p>Investment banking is arguably the most snobby profession in the world. Yes, consultants are up there with IB, but I think IB definitely has more of a stereotype of “look-at-me”.</p>
<p>[Damn</a> It Feels Good to be Banker – A Wall Street Musical - YouTube](<a href=“Damn It Feels Good to be Banker -- A Wall Street Musical - YouTube”>Damn It Feels Good to be Banker -- A Wall Street Musical - YouTube)</p>
<p>Yawn, every f500 firm has a 3.0 cut off. You don’t know crap. I’ve been on a lot of forums, but when you have high school kids answering questions you know things are screwed up.</p>
<p>Like I’ve said before. If an accounting firm won’t hire you with a 3.3, consider yourself lucky. Network and get a banking job so you can make 2x the money.</p>
<p>What a joke. </p>
<p>^
My post is in response to the one, I copied and pasted. Exactly MSFHQSITE, yet Valley Accountant is telling me that my 3.4 GPA from a CSU isn’t good enough.</p>
<p>Acct 230 Financial Accounting B+
Acct 231 Managerial Accounting B
Acct 330 Intermediate Accounting I B+
Acct 331 Intermediate Accounting II B+
Acct 333 Income Taxation I B+
Acct 336 Internal Auditing A
Acct 337 Cost Accounting A
Acct 430 Advanced Accounting A
Acct 433 Income Taxation II A
Acct 435 Auditing A</p>
<p>English 101 Reading and Composition C
Math 131 Introduction to Statistics and Probability B+
Science 103 Intro to Oceanography C
Art 100 Art in Modern Life C
Law 240 Business Law I A
Nutrtion 110 Food and Nutrition B
His 101 U.S HISTORY 1500- 1877 A
His 102 U.S History 1878- Present B
Econ 160 Principles of Macroeconomics A
Econ 161 Principles of Microeconomics B
English 102 Critical Thinking/Composition B
Poli Sci 101 United States Government B
Speech 101 Effective Speaking B
Phil 100 Philosophy of Ethics A
HIS 120 History of California A
CIS 200 Computers info systems A
Ant 100 Biological Anthropology A
Health 101 Modern Health A</p>
<p>MKT 350 Principles of Marketing B
MGT 310 Management theory A-
SBS 318 Cultural pluralism A-
CIS 370 Management info systems A-
Eng 300 Business Communications A
Hum 312 Integrative Studies in Humanities B-
OMG 321 Business Statistics B
English 350 Advanced Composition B
OMG 322 Operations Management B
Fin 360 Business Finance B
BUS 445 International Business A
MGT 490 Strategic Management Seminar A
Law 340 Business Law II A
Smt 310 Science and Technology A-
Fin 375 Personal Financial Planning A</p>
<p>GPA 3.4</p>
<p>Your GPA is fine. The question is what ec’s do you have?</p>
<p>Organized beach clean ups, prepared packages for troops overseas, and was a member of the Accounting Society.</p>
<p>A 3.4 gpa from a CSU isn’t good enough for my firm. It is a large regional CPA firm and we only hire 3.5 gpa and above. Like I said all CSU’s have **** accounting departments except for SDSU, Cal Poly SLO, and CSU Northridge. I went to a **** CSU and now work in accounting. </p>
<p>I highly doubt a 3.4 gpa from a tier 3 or 4 school will get you into banking.</p>
<p>Kitty you said you graduated with your degree.</p>
<p>Do you have a job in public accounting or banking? Have you had many interviews?</p>
<p>I had around 5 solid job offers and I went to a ****ty school. 1 big 4 job offer in tax.I had a 3.75 gpa overall and 4.0 in accounting.</p>
<p>Kitty you said you graduated with your degree.</p>
<p>Do you have a job in public accounting or banking? Have you had many interviews?</p>
<p>I had around 5 solid job offers and I went to a ****ty school. 1 big 4 job offer in tax.I had a 3.75 gpa overall and 4.0 in accounting. </p>
<p>I just graduate in June. Haven’t been looing too much till last month. So far no job offers, but the only places I have applied to have been for accounting jobs on monster and craigslist. Where most require experience. Where should I look to see if I have a chance at a job.</p>
<p>Btw. You say all , but 3 CSUs have ****ty Accounting departments. However, 17 of the 23 CSUs are AACSB accredited. That accreditation is not easy to get.</p>
<p>AACSB accreditation doesn’t mean the school has a good accounting department. Anyone with a pulse can get into a CSU. The average SAT at many of these schools is sub 1500. </p>
<p>You should have began your job search your junior year in college. Starting from square one right now is going to be extremely difficult. The economy is in the gutter and there are literally thousands of people with your gpa specs and no work experience looking for jobs.</p>
<p>By the way AACSB has a separate accounting accreditation.</p>
<p>[AACSB</a> Accounting Accreditation](<a href=“http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/accounting/]AACSB”>http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/accounting/)</p>
<p>In my post, I’m only referencing all the universities in California. AACSB does not accredit two year colleges.</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.aacsb.net/eweb/DynamicPa...7-0A92E98DF5C6[/url]”>https://www.aacsb.net/eweb/DynamicPa...7-0A92E98DF5C6</a>
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<p>In California the following schools in California are AACSB accredited for business. Only 34 universities in the entire state of California hold AACSB accreditation. They’re members and have Accreditation in business. Thus, they have applied for accreditation and been granted accreditation.</p>
<p>California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo (California)
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona (California)
California State University, Bakersfield (California)
California State University, Chico (California)
California State University, East Bay (California)
California State University, Fresno (California)
California State University, Fullerton (California)
California State University, Long Beach (California)
California State University, Los Angeles (California)
California State University, Northridge (California)
California State University, Sacramento (California)
California State University, San Bernardino (California)
California State University, Stanislaus (California)
Chapman University (California)
Claremont Graduate University (California)
Loyola Marymount University (California)
Monterey Institute of International Studies (California)
Naval Postgraduate School (California)
Pepperdine University (California)
San Diego State University (California)
San Francisco State University (California)
San Jose State University (California)
Santa Clara University (California)
Sonoma State University (California)
Stanford University (California)
University of California, Berkeley (California)
University of California, Davis (California)
University of California, Irvine (California)
University of California, Los Angeles (California)
University of California, Riverside (California)
University of San Diego (California)
University of San Francisco (California)
University of Southern California (California)
University of the Pacific (California)</p>
<p>Only 5 universities in the entire state of California hold AACSB Accreditation for Accounting
The schools below are accredited for Businesss AND Accounting:</p>
<p>Schools Accredited in Accounting - ordered by country/region, state, name</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.aacsb.net/eweb/DynamicPa...9-D89A31C7FF73[/url]”>https://www.aacsb.net/eweb/DynamicPa...9-D89A31C7FF73</a></p>
<p>California State University, Fullerton (California)
San Diego State University (California)
Santa Clara University (California)
University of San Diego (California)
University of Southern California (California)</p>
<p>If you graduated from a lesser CSU with a 3.4 gpa you will be considered an average student by CPA firms. If you graduated from CSU Fullerton, SDSU, CSU Northridge, or Cal Poly SLO you will be considered a good student as these accounting departments are impacted and restrict admission to only decent students. </p>
<p>If you have no work experience in accounting then sit for and pass the CPA exam. Make sure you don’t end up with a gap on your resume. Find some sort of job. Network at Cal CPA chapter meetings and IMA chapter meetings. Internet postings receive far to many applications and they are too impersonal.</p>
<p>Did you graduate from a California State University? Did big 4 actively recruit your school?</p>
<p>Yes I graduated from a California State University. The BIG4 don’t recruit at my school. So are you saying not to bother with internet postings?</p>
<p>State board of equalization hired a friend of mine as a tax auditor. She came from the same school, had a 3.2 GPA and no relevant experience. However, she interned with them for 4 months before graduation.</p>
<p>^Your friend is probably very attractive then.</p>
<p>They hired 6 from my school as interns and all 6 got job offers with them after graduation. 2 of them had a 3.7 GPA. The other 4 had GPA’s ranging from 3.2- 3.4.</p>
<p>Definitely apply every chance you get but you need to build a network. State jobs are a joke in my opinion. You can have a 3.0 ****ty gpa and because you are bilingual and a veteran you can get hired anywhere. State jobs don’t make anywhere near what you can make in public accounting hence they are less competitive to get . You max out at 100k in state jobs after working 20 years. </p>
<p>The managing partner at my office makes around 400k and junior partners start at 150k. I am in the california valley though. Our southern california partners make about 30-40% higher than that. </p>
<p>You need to pass your CPA exam kitty. If that doesn’t get you a job still go back to school and try to get into USC. Having a nice pedigree masters will definitely get you a job. Do a review course like Becker or Roger. Oh and yes looks matter a lot. I am not an attractive person though but all the women at my office are. It makes me wonder sometimes.</p>
<p>Im transferring to SDSU in a couple weeks and i want to know if it will be difficult to keep my 3.76 gpa up. My 3.76 average is for lower division classes in 76 units. I “could” have earned at least a 3.9 if I didnt get so many Bs and one C my first year. The classes that I earned Bs and one C in are in non-major related courses (mostly science classes). I earned all As for my major requirements which were 8 business related classes or so. </p>
<p>Do you think someone like me can achieve a 3.5+ for my upper division classes? Im an MIS major at SDSU. I really want to graduate with honors to get a head start over my peers.</p>
<p>There is no way to predict how well you will do. Just don’t lose your focus and make sure you read the syllabus and do everything asked of you in addition to showing up to class. If you don’t understand something ask the teacher. Don’t procrastinate get it down early. Good job SDSU’s accounting program is excellent. My advice would be space out your accounting curriculum. Don’t take more than 2 or 3 courses per semester. Your accounting GPA is more important than you overall.</p>
<p>^no, your cumulative gpa is more important than your major. You want both to be high, but it is much more beneficial to have a higher cumulative gpa and a lower major gpa than a higher major gpa and a lower cumulateve gpa during recruiting season. </p>
<p>Thumper:</p>
<p>Its hard to say. I did my 1st two years with ~3.7. Did slightly better my second two years. My 1st two yrs, my gpa was brought down by mostly Math classes. My 2nd two years, by some upper level accounting classes. But as you are a MIS major, cant really tell u.</p>
<p>I wish I had better study habits during my junior year of college. I never studied in high school for any class and when I went to college, the classes didn’t seem to get much harder. I would find myself studying for my classes an hour or two before exams. I made off pretty good until my junior year, where intermediate accounting I raped me. I ended up getting a C+ (the first and only “C” so far in college). I would tend to use my previous study habits for accounting, which was a crucial mistake. On the other hand, cost accounting (B+) was a breeze and I would find myself skipping class since the teacher was sooo boring. I improved in intermediate accounting II (B), but I still found myself waiting until the day before an exam to study. I would’ve probably got a B+ or an A, but I decided to go out drinking the night before an exam :(. I’m now going into my senior year with advanced accounting and auditing beginning later this month. My current GPA is a 3.34. What I’m wondering is “what is the amount of hrs. you guys study/studied for your accounting courses and have anyone found it difficult acclimating to your major courses after other classes were a piece of cake?”. If only you could tell the big four or other companies you’re interviewing for that the reason why you GPA is on the low-end is since you don’t have good time management skills…lol</p>
<p>Kitty, </p>
<p>Your GPA is fine. Most people list cum and major. Cumulative gets you in the door and major helps offset a lower general GPA. </p>
<p>I have two masters and about 5 years work experience at large, global banks as well as private equity. I know tons of friends, from UG and my masters, who have between a 3.0 and a 3.5, all working at F500 firms, accounting, investment banking, etc. I have personally recruited for my last bank, referred people, have been referred. </p>
<p>When I tell you your GPA is fine, you can trust that I have at least walked the walk when I talk the talk. I’m not going to get into a P*ssing match on this site because of the nature of it. Not bad mouthing this place, but it is just the nature of the posters and questions which brings a lot of inexperience or hearsay.</p>
<p>@Valley - You might be right, but unless you are a hiring manager or someone senior, your opinion is just that, an opinion. You don’t know everyone’s profile, you are not making the hiring decision, you really don’t have many data points outside yourself and what your friends tell you (which might be lies since someone with a 3.0 is probably not going to tell you the truth). </p>
<p>Coming on here and basically crapping all over someone when you are relatively junior in the working world is a tad irresponsible. I am not saying you are wrong since you know your firm better than I, but to say a sub 3.5 is the end of the world is silly. </p>
<p>Guys, GPA is important. Don’t jerk around in school and do the best you can. But remember this, it is just one small part of your resume. A 3.2 who networks, prepares and is hungry will get a job over a 3.7 who applies through the career site and smiles.</p>