what is a "good suit"?

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Mine, too. And I think pretty much everybody’s. If you get your son looking like Cary, Skyhook, could you please send him to my house? I’m way too old for him, but one of my daughters is single.</p>

<p>i can’t figure out how to quote people’s posts!!</p>

<p>@ oldfort
I double checked on the website to be sure, most are ~600. Most expensive was ~650.</p>

<p>That’s two piece suits btw. Three piece are obviously typically a bit more.</p>

<p>My dad loves North by Northwest, I’ve watched it many times with him. The other night we watched a movie with him and Audrey Hepburn called Charade, ever see it? It was really good I recommend it!</p>

<p>@skyhook
I agree somewhat. Always thought Cary Grant was the epitome of a well dressed man, grooming and all. However, I think slim fitting suits look good on slim guys who would look silly in big boxy traditional suits. And even on regular sized/larger men, there’s a tough gray area between impeccably Cary Grant tailored and baggy/too big.</p>

<p>@thumper
Yea, you’re probably right. Hugo Boss is probably closer to 900-1000 full price.</p>

<p>As far as Nordstrom is concerned, I think they have a kind of older person-oriented selection and sales suck. But their customer service is second to none. I prefer Bloomingdale’s. Not just because I worked there, but because they have so many more sales and a selection more geared to people my age. That’s my own bias, obviously, though.</p>

<p>Funny you mention Cary Grant. The epitome of a sharply dressed gentleman! Certain actors’ looks get embedded in our memory. When DH was told that he had to have a black suit to look like the rest of the team just three days before the big event :eek:, we rushed to Nordstrom, where DH wandered around the department looking totally lost until he saw Hugo Boss suits, “Look, honey, they have the stuff that Tom Hanks wore in The Terminal!” Sold! That strategic product placement worked well for Hugo Boss. :slight_smile: H was really lucky that the only “tailoring” that he needed was hemming. I was very happy that they had the men’s sale going on at that time!</p>

<p>Sorry, I meant to say Hugo Boss is not the same price point as Banana Republic. HB is around $1000, whereas BR is around $500. No, I wouldn’t say HB is same as BR.</p>

<p>Yoohoo…Dad II…where you?? Still wondering if you are inquiring about a young man or a young woman who will be interviewing on Wall Street.</p>

<p>Most people can’t tell the quality of the fabric from looking at it (ie. the difference between a $250 suit or a $1000 suit). You can tell by feel and also by durability. The fit is the most important thing. You can spend less on a suit if you’re willing to spend a bit more on good quality fitting/tailoring of it (ie the back of the jacket should fit smoothly cross the shoulders, pants should just break on the top of the shoe and should be measured for hemming with the shoes he’s going to wear). Stick with black, dark gray or navy. Any kind of pattern will usually scream cheap suit because the pattern on a cheaper suit often doesn’t match across the back and sleeves. If the student is traveling to the interview and wearing the suit/putting it in a suitcase, make sure they know how to pack it. A more expensive suit fabric will generally hold its shape better during the day and not rumple so fast. Also make sure the pockets/vents are slit open. They are usually sewn shut when you buy a suit, and I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve seen men in new suits who can’t put their hands in the pocket or whose vent is still stitched shut. Also, I think young men should all learn how to to tie a real necktie. For an important interview, that suggest that the young man knows how to dress. I would also spend a bit more on a nice silk tie. In a pinch, you could tie the tie ahead of time, and he can slip it over his head and tighten.</p>

<p>^I must respectfully disagree and advise against pre-tying a tie. Unless the person tying it is exactly the same height and wearing the exact same suit while tying it, the length won’t come out correctly.</p>

<p>I mentioned earlier, I saw in GQ (or Esquire, or Details? they’re all the same I can never remember what I read from which) once and have since tried and found to always look pretty damn good…the tie should fall about halfway on your belt. And while I rarely am in a situation where it needs to be super formal, for an interview your shirt should be buttoned all the way up and the tie pulled up as high as possible.</p>

<p>As older son said(when I said his younger brother got a $225 suit at Jos.A Banks today for interview purposes-there will always be sales).Brooks Brothers has lots of sales too . Older son, 2 years out of college , can buy all the Brooks Brothers at retail, Allen Edmonds shoes, Barbour coats he wants to on his own dime if that is what he is into and he knows we will never buy these things for him. He likes these things (probably because of their status) and he knows to look for sales. I don’t get the label stuff and hope he outgrows this label issue - just need basic well made stuff myself, not that interested in particular labels but I find some kids right of college seem to care some about fashion and status. I hope older son settles down to being happy with good quality stuff on sale(he already knows about sales and can’t imagine he would pay full price for an expensive suit). He likes Brooks Brothers, L.L. Bean,etc. but already knows to look for sales.</p>

<p>Some other brands I left off the list, using the same categories without elaboration (eliminated the second category):</p>

<p>Very top of the line:
Brioni
Kiton
Louis Vuitton
Tom Ford
Thom Browne
Ralph Lauren Purple Lable</p>

<p>Very high end:
Prada
Gucci
Dolce & Gabbana
Dior Homme
Ermenegildo Zegna
Valentino
D Squared
Burberry
Giorgio Armani
Ralph Lauren Black Label</p>

<p>High end:
Brooks Brothers
Emporio Armani
Salvatore Ferragamo</p>

<p>Premium:
John Varvatos
Versace
Ralph Lauren
Hugo Boss
Theory</p>

<p>Good quality, less expensive:
J. Crew
Banana Republic</p>

<p>Ok quality, relatively inexpensive:
H&M
Zara
Armani Exchange</p>

<p>“Brioni-… $500-$700 per shirt” </p>

<p>Anybody else find a catch-22 here? The only way I’d pay $700 for a shirt is if it came with a written guarantee that Penelope Cruz was going to tear it off of me.</p>

<p>Unless you’re a GQ editor or pull in like high six figures, I don’t see why you’d need a Tom Ford or Thom Browne suit. I mean, yeah, they’re awesome suits but wasn’t the OP talking about fresh college graduates? </p>

<p>And you can get nice Ralph Lauren, Brooks Bros., Zenga, etc. suits on eBay for cheap. Good tailoring can add a zero on the end of the perceived value of a suit.</p>

<p>I’m awarding Schmaltz a happy face sticker for making me laugh out loud in post 90 (and I don’t mean figuratively), even with a headache this morning.</p>

<p>Yea, Schmaltz is funny with the $700 shirt! Remember though the store selling those $700 shirts has a piano player playing in its men’s clothes dept. which probably justifies the price.</p>

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<p>Only if the piano-playing man’s shirt is on the mannequin instead and he’s buff.</p>

<p>Things that would justify a shirt costing $700:
Penelope cruz…
Piano player
Buff shirtless piano player</p>

<p>And I’ll add…</p>

<p>Denise Milani is jumping on a trampoline in the middle of the store.</p>

<p>Keith Olbermann dunk tank over by the $500 ties (which are apparently made by Fields Medal winning silk worms)</p>

<p>Has anybody noted that Hugo Boss suits are glued together (not sewn) and are reputed to
come apart when dry cleaned?</p>

<p>H likes Penelope Cruz too. I am not a fan of her face. It looks like a horse.</p>

<p>We have a number of Hugo Boss garments here. They are all sewn…excellent quality and excellent fabric.</p>

<p>My maid accidentally put my Hugo Boss pants in the washer, but had enough sense not to put them in the dryer. They came out just fine, no shrinkage or rip. It doesn´t mean we will be washing my suits in the future, but I was impressed.</p>

<p>never thought she was that pretty either until i saw pirates 4, she was good in that</p>

<p>i have a couple HB polos, one very nice the other shrank considerably and is now too short</p>

<p>also have a couple dress shirts from them that are very nice and have always served me well. their shirts and polos get to be pretty reasonably priced for me during their 50% sales plus my mom’s employee 20/20s plus coupons =)</p>

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<p>agreed 100%</p>