What is so special about Harvard?

<p>adis. I disagree about the burritos. If you come from an area with a large Mexican community the burritos here suck. Felipes is average but not great like everyone makes it out to be. But take my opinion with a grain of salt, I think most food in the area is terrible (exceptions being Indian, Sushi and vegetarian). Esp. the pizza (they put everything on pizza including cream cheese, apricots, prunes etc.)</p>

<p>Prunes on pizza? Usually unique things are cool to me but that just sounds awful haha.</p>

<p>By the way, I was just joking about wanting to go to Harvard for the burritos, lol… I wasn’t being serious.</p>

<p>Oh great. Now I love H even more.</p>

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<p>God, I do not miss that smell outside Felipes at night.</p>

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<p>No, I mean, you have to apply for them and have some plan of study or otherwise legitimate reason. You can’t get a grant to backpack in Europe. But you could get a grant to study in Italy, which for all intents and purposes…</p>

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<p>Are you sure that wasn’t the Spee?</p>

<p>I heard this college called Yale has a cupcake truck doe.</p>

<p>–YungGuap</p>

<p>Well, the Mexican food situation has at least improved since my mother, who came from a small high school in the Valley in California with a large immigrant population, came to Harvard in the late '70s. She says that early during her freshman year, a group of bright young New York preppy types invited her to something they called Pay-koes take-Os. (Hard to transliterate exactly for the internet, but Os as in the last syllable of Cheerios.) Was actually “Pacos Tacos.”</p>

<p>As someone who doesn’t eat a lot of junk food late on weekend nights, I do avoid the pizza myself.</p>

<p>Please don’t kill me but…</p>

<p>Even though Harvard may have the highest endowment,</p>

<p>Princeton beats Harvard when it comes to endowment per student.
(See: [College</a> Endowment Rankings | Statistic Brain](<a href=“http://www.statisticbrain.com/college-endowment-rankings/]College”>College Endowment Rankings - Statistic Brain))</p>

<p>So, you can safely assume that Princeton would offer even more than what all the Harvardians mentioned.</p>

<p>Plus, Princeton has just as much prestige and the location is amazing (more so than Boston for me).</p>

<p>Just saying :D</p>

<p>“So, you can safely assume that Princeton would offer even more than what all the Harvardians mentioned.”</p>

<p>^^ That’s probably going to vary from student to student depending upon a family’s financial situation. For our family, the net cost-of-attendance at Princeton was more expensive than Harvard (about 7k more per year). And the net cost-of-attendance at Harvard was more expensive than Yale (about 5k more per year).</p>

<p>Is the per student ratio the amount of money of the endowment available to be spent on each student, or the amount of money actually spent? </p>

<p>If it’s the former, that doesn’t mean that Princeton actually spends more money on its students/makes more resources available to students more than Harvard does. Same goes for Harvard; just because the endowment is larger doesn’t mean Harvard uses that money on its students. I will say that it was a huge adjustment coming back home for the first time (I’m a freshman); I was used to being “spoiled” by Harvard. I could turn my heat up went I wanted to, go see some famous speaker (free), go see a play (free on opening night), watch a movie (even a pre-screening) (also free), etc. Everything at home costs money. I am used to all of the free entertainment. Those are non-academic examples, but it’s already been covered how Harvard takes care of us (I am hoping I get to study abroad fully funded or at least mostly by Harvard).</p>

<p>A distinction my son felt between Harvard and Princeton is that Harvard seemed much more open, inviting, and friendly than Princeton. In fact, of the schools to which he applied, Harvard was one of two schools that seemed the most genial, the most interested in him, individually.</p>

<p>Even before visiting either campus, the Harvard admissions folks with whom he met in our local area were personable and inviting. The Princeton admissions folks were standoffish. He really enjoyed his visit to Harvard’s campus while still a senior in high school, and met students with whom he’s now friends now that he’s attending. Princeton folks were polite to him when he visited the campus, but not really friendly. He attended classes there and noted a lack of camaraderie among the students. When he visited Harvard, faculty made time to meet individually with him to talk about his academic goals.</p>

<p>He’s made a great number of friends, finds the professors and teaching fellows approachable, and the administrative staff with whom he’s dealt courteous and competent. He’s joined several clubs and organizations and has been welcomed with open arms, and been immediately included by the older members.</p>

<p>As to location, the town of Princeton, itself, is very nice, very pretty. But the big city to which it’s adjacent is Trenton. Enough said.</p>

<p>When he started his college search, Princeton was his preferred Ivy. Academically, it seemed a better fit. He thought that because it was a predominantly undergraduate institution, it might offer a superior learning environment, more attention from faculty, since the focus, by necessity, is really on undergrads.</p>

<p>But over time, Harvard won him over.</p>

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<p>How about Tex Mex at the Border Cafe on Church St?</p>

<p>Notjoe, I actually felt the exact opposite when I was checking out the Preview weekends for both Princeton and Harvard last year, which is part of the reason why I am now sitting here in New Jersey. Princeton definitely seemed more open, inviting, and friendly to me than Harvard. This has certainly continued into the school year. I am on a first-name basis with all but one of my professors (including preceptors), and they all seem to be very interested in my personal development and education (undergraduate focus is a real thing). Also, I don’t see how Princeton lacks camaraderie. Princeton has by far the highest alumni giving rates, if that means anything. Trenton?! The bad areas of Trenton do not affect the student life at Princeton whatsoever. There are bad areas in Boston which are much closer than Trenton is to Princeton, yet Harvard students don’t suffer from that.</p>

<p>Fighting anecdotal evidence with anecdotal evidence…</p>

<p>Egghead, I laughed at the last line of your post. It’s the norm here to call your profs and preceptors by their first same.</p>

<p>The networking is unbelievable. I believe at Yale and Princeton, you’ll just find a bunch of studious students, but not many entrepreneurs.</p>

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<li><p>I think Princeton and Harvard both make incredible resources available to undergraduates. That makes both of them special.</p></li>
<li><p>Trenton proper – and certainly any “bad” part of Trenton – is a looong way from Princeton, and has 0 impact on life at the university, except for seeing it out the window of the train if you are heading south. The town of Princeton is a ritzy ex-urb for New York and Philadelphia, and something of a hub for many business developments in central New Jersey. </p></li>
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<p>Meanwhile, some of the “bad” parts of Boston are not far at all from Harvard, and that does affect Harvard students somewhat. I don’t think it deters a lot of students from going there, but there is a constant (fairly low) level of street crime on and around the Harvard campus. That doesn’t make Harvard special, either; it makes Harvard like all of the similar universities located in the middle of cities. All of them spend a lot on security and police to make certain their students are safe, and generally they succeed, but none of them completely eradicates occasional muggings and thefts.</p>

<p>Objectively, no one at Princeton OR Harvard is likely to be the victim of a serious crime, and petty thefts occur everywhere. Most of the bad things that happen to students are caused by other students, including crimes. But students at Princeton feel they are a world away from urban street crime, and Harvard students don’t.</p>

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<p>I’m a fierce advocate and defender of my alma mater, but this is patently untrue. Yale and Princeton, in addition to producing tons of brilliant alum in every field imaginable, has also produced, and continues to produce many entrepreneurs in different sectors. No entrepreneurs? Jeff Bezos, Ben Silbermann, and my current partners/co-founders (among others) might have something to say about that.</p>

<p>JHS, I know this is subjective, but I don’t know anyone here who feels close to street crime or unsafe. </p>

<p>I agree with WindCloudUltra. You can’t say that there aren’t many entrepreneurs at Yale and Princeton. HYP has a great network. The Ivy League in general has a great network.</p>

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<p>Are you a freshman by any chance? This year was much better than last year as far as street crime goes. If not, search your Harvard inbox for HUPD community advisories. Every semester there are a few muggings and occasionally something more serious, like the two rapes in Harvard Yard last August (they weren’t students, not that it really matters).</p>

<p>It’s not common by any means and two or three muggings per ten thousand Harvard affiliates per semester isn’t exactly Compton but I’ve walked quite a few of my female friends home in the wee hours of the morning and I think it’s rather common for students to feel uneasy on campus at night, as they should in any urban environment.</p>

<p>I am a freshman and I’m aware of the happenings in the past. That said, I have a lot of upperclassman friends and I’ve asked them about it and that’s what they’ve said.</p>

<p>I am a female and I am always walked home/never alone at night. Not because I feel unsafe, but that’s how I was raised. I come from a suburb where I’d have very little reason to be nervous about being out alone at night (but I never put myself in that situation anyway). I guess it’s different (and subjective) for me because I don’t take safety precautions because I feel unsafe. I do them anyway.</p>