<p>khaki: I’m not sure why are you upset? I don’t think it is wrong to apply with a major which may provide an edge in admission if possible.</p>
<p>Your seat might go to a leagacy or URM or first generation college student. So to begin with the game is not fair. </p>
<p>There is no lie here, if you look at her courses she has challenged herself in almost all areas. Previously she didn’t want to take AP spanish but now she is planning to take it in senior year just to show Ivies that she doesn’t stay away from a subject that is her weakness but is trying to find ways to be good at it.</p>
<p>She really wants to do EECS followed by Medicine which in my case may not be the best combination to protray on the application as college may feel like you that she is trying to sneak in via Engineering if her aim is to be a medical doctor someday.</p>
<p>bluebayou : Her subjects were too Engineering oriented till Junior year as per her school college counselor and she wanted to take Electronics/Computer elective in senior year but the CC has convinced her to take Organic Chemistry and another Elective in senior year if she wants to give MCAT.</p>
<p>If you’re not sure why I’m upset, then you didn’t read my message.</p>
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<p>Of course not, but that’s no reason to make it worse. There are a very limited number of seats available in Ivy League schools to people who are not legacies, minorities, or first-generation college students. The competition for those seats should be a level playing field… people shouldn’t try to cheat their way in. Think of it this way: do you think “honesty” is an important value at the Ivies?</p>
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<p>If you report her interests as something they are not, then there most certainly is a lie. I couldn’t care less how many different areas your daughter challenged herself in. Colleges do, and they’ll reward her in the admissions process for doing so, but trying hard in a wide variety of areas (like I’m sure all qualified Ivy applicants did) does NOT justify dishonesty.</p>
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<p>I’m not an admissions officer, but I doubt colleges are worried about people trying to “sneak in” or really care that much what you go on to do after you leave. Seriously, do you think Princeton cares whether the graduate school you go to comports with your majority of not?</p>
<p>That also seems like a really weird course choice path. Are you sure she’ll even be qualified for medical school (let alone accepted by a good one) if she majors in electrical engineering?</p>
<p>That is what the topic is; EECS followed by Medical School?
I don’t think that make sense but that is what my D is interested in doing.
I think it make more sense to apply for BS Computer Science at Yale than EECS if she wants to do medical school later.
That is her honsety which I think people like you on the admission board will take as dishonesty and may cause her a spot.
I looked at Yale EECS which has 15 electives as requirement after pre-requisites which won’t allow anytime to prepare for MCAT.
With her attitude about studies and passion I’m certain she will be fully prepared for whatever she wants to do after her undergraduate including Medical, Buisness or even Law.</p>
<p>thing is if you do the EE track, which it is, and you change your major, then you often have to catchup with other classes…</p>
<p>my nephew was told to apply to a school and say he was interested in some weird major- he said he would only apply for the major he is interested in and to do otherwise would be dishonest and he would feel bad about doing so</p>
<p>there is something to having personal integrity</p>
<p>again, why is she wanting to apply via EE program? what is in her mind for the reason for doing so? that I still haven’t understood</p>
<p>does she want to do engineering? if so, what area?</p>
<p>also, my gut tells me that medical school would want their students to have done lots of biology, and chemistry, etc…are those classes offered in the EE track, or is daughter just putting that down so she can get into her school and then “change” her mind?</p>
<p>so my question is this- is she really interested in EE, which has a very specific curriculum and then applying to medical school? or is she using the EE major do get into a school?</p>
<p>something D needs to consider- EE applicants are often put into a different pool and have very specific requirements and that may in fact not help her at all if she really isn’t interested in EE</p>
<p>Seems D isn’t really sure what she wants to do, which is quite normal, but if you try and play the system, it can also hurt you</p>
<p>I’d like to major in Astronomy, but I’m not going to. Why? Because there is the looming prospect of graduate school and a job. Sure, I’ll get to take all sorts of cool classes I’ve always wanted to take in college, but I also need to be responsible, and that means not just majoring in something “fun” that prevents me from adequately preparing for the rest of my life.</p>
<p>You should ask your daughter WHY she wants to do that. Maybe it would make more sense to minor in engineering if she wants to do medicine. I just don’t really understand why you would major in something that has no relevance at all to your intended career.</p>
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<p>First of all, I’m not on a college admissions board. Second, I really don’t see how people will see that as dishonest. Putting “engineering” for a girl might be a little suspicious, but I believe you said that she took the requisite classes in high school, so I really doubt anybody will take her honestly as dishonesty.</p>
<p>In all honesty, I think you’re worrying too much. I’m FREAKING OUT about college too, but I really don’t think this is going to be a huge problem. Then again, I’m not on a college admissions board.</p>
<p>Either way, it is straight-up dishonest to lie about your intentions, no matter how you spin it.</p>
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<p>Well, I’m not that in-the-know, but isn’t premed designed to specifically to make sure you fulfill all the requirements for medical school? Will medical schools even admit you if you haven’t taken certain classes in high school?</p>
<p>By the way, I might be misunderstanding. Is medicine her real interest and EECS just a ploy to get into college, or is EECS followed by medicine her real interest, and you have yet to develop your ploy?</p>
I am a little disappointed to keep seeing this sense of entitlement on CC. Why do people always talk as if the “seats” at highly selective schools automatically belong to “certain” groups? Guys, no matter what you think, all of the “seats” are up for grabs and it’s the admissions officers who decides who does and does not get a “seat.” </p>
<p>Also, I like how you mentioned that “your seat might go to a legacy or URM or first generation college student” but completely ignored the fact that “your seat” could go to an athlete or an Asian or White applicant who “less qualified” than you or maybe even someone who is almost exactly like you.</p>
<p>Sorry to crucify you for your comment but I think that people should start thinking more before they post on this forum. The whole “so to begin with the game is not fair” suggests that you believe that URMs, legacies, and first generation students are inherently inferior to other applicants. Also the whole thing about it being “fair” does not make sense. When it comes to highly selective schools the “fair” thing would be to admit all of the thousands of applicants that are deemed qualified. Guess what, that’s not possible. Here’s why the colleges are considered “highly selective.” Instead of merely determining whether or not an applicant is qualified for admissions, highly selective schools begin to look at what the applicant can offer the school and his or her potential peers, which is why the essays and recommendations are incredibly important.</p>
<p>Anyways, back to your daughter…
Anything science and math related is your daughter’s best bet because Affirmative Action/holistic admissions will work in her favor.</p>
<p>Newjack88 : The post was not to offend anyone but to let 'Khaki" know that choosing a major is not a ploy but a serious issue.
I don’t want my D to stuck with something that causes her plans to apply for a medicine school.</p>
<p>I think what she might really want is pursuing a computer engineering but not computer science in college of arts and science.</p>
<p>But it seems that most college club computer engineering under Electrical Engineering Department at the college of engineering and so the major is refer to as EECS.</p>
<p>Is there a way to identify on the college application that the major she wants to follow is Computer Engineering/Science under the college of Engineering and not under college of Arts and Science?</p>
<p>The major differences in the two program is to fullfill College of Arts and Science requirement over College of Engineering requirement.</p>
<p>So it is not that she wants to study Electrical Engineering but she want to study Computer Engineering.</p>
<p>khaki: Her real interests are in Computer Engineering and Medicine.
But I would certainly like to know if marking one major over the other will make any difference or not.</p>
<p>Oh, if THAT’s your question then it’s not nearly as bad as I thought. It sounded to me like you were going to pick a random major that your daughter had no interest in whatsoever.</p>
<p>Just going on my common sense, I’d say marking the EE is a better choice, because girls are not common in engineering.</p>
<p>citygirlsmom : “does she want to do engineering? if so, what area?”</p>
<p>She wants to do Computer Engineering and not Electrical Engineering. She doesn’t want to do Computer Science in College of Arts and Science.</p>
<p>Also I’ve suggested her to apply to direct BS/MD programs along with Ivies as that will allow her to pursue Computer Engineering with MD if she gets in.</p>
<p>k- once again, she wants to do computer engineering, but somehow go to medical school…don’t medical schools look for lots of science- NOT computer science- but natural sciences of their potential students? So if she does the computer science track in an engeering school, would she be able to take the courses she would need as a pre requisite to medical school, or does she think she can get into medical school with an engineering degree?</p>
<p>Does she realize that many schools track the engineering majors into very specific courses? And that if she changes later, it can be problematic?</p>
<p>After touring over 25 schools in the last three years and hearing basically that same spiel, that is what I get from the schools.</p>
<p>At EACH and every presentation for college I have been to, there is ALWAYS the question “Anyone interested in Engeering here? If so, I will touch on that, but you should really connect up iwth the engeering program and check out their system etc as it is different from the other schools. If not, i will skim over that area as it is too specific and their courses are often very different from other schools”</p>
<p>So D REALLY needs to be sure this is her track, otherwise she will have catching up to do and can miss out on course for the “medical” school that keeps getting talked about</p>
<p>The CE/medical combination seems interesting to me. This seems kind of obvious but what about her doing biomedical engineering? She could also do a design-your-own major combining her interests. Is her career goal something like designing health-related websites or designing new medical equipment or something like that? She might not need to go to medical school if she does engineering and gets internships in medical areas. Getting an engineering degree and then a medical school degree makes it sound to me like she just wants to collect degrees.</p>
<p>I was an EECS major and it’s not hard to satisfy the premed requirements. The OP’s daughter probably is going to AP out of most of them anyway. Probably the only thing she will have to take is organic chemistry.</p>
<p>As for collecting degrees, the fact is that you need an undergrad degree. You can major in whatever you want–med schools don’t care what you major in.</p>
<p>Biomedical engineering is really overrated as an undergrad major. If you really want to be a biomedical engineer, you are better off specializing in one type of engineering as an undergrad and then applying it to biology later on. It almost becomes a survey major. If that’s what she wants to learn, then ok. But like if you want to learn about medical imaging, the biomedical application closest to computer engineering, you are better off majoring in EECS than in biomedical engineering.</p>
<p>Agree with collegealum314. Besides, POIH, I am sure that admissions committees get hundreds of apps from students who say they want to get into med school. They also know that many, many of them will give up that idea when they take Orgo or when they realize it’s not how they want to live their lives.</p>
<p>Let her get into undergrad and major in what she wants. Too much strategy can backfire. If she wants computer engineering for UG, she can do that. If she wants to take her pre-med requirements, she can do that, too. Our pediatrician (fabulous doctor, has won many honors) was a polisci major and got his masters in int’l relations before going to med school. Non-traditional majors for pre-meds are not ususual any more.</p>