What Math Class To Take Senior Year? If I Don't Take AP Calculus, Will I Look Bad To Top Colleges?

I’ve taken 12 other AP classes , all with A’s. Hardest was probably Euro and Bio, got a 4 or 5 respectively. I did AP stats, I got a 5, but that class was more logic based than math. I struggled HARD in Pre-Calc and that is apparently nothing compared to Calc at my school.

I don’t only care about my GPA, that’s why I took bio and even though my school has a though teacher for that too. I just don’t think I will need calculus in my adult life given my possible majors and my career path. I’d rather take a class I enjoy and learn things that I will use in the future. Out of the majors I’m considering, only one needs calculus, and its the major I least prefer out of my current list.

I’m naturally bad at math, but overall smart and hard working. So yeah, looking at my history in math classes I look good at math, but I think its the latter two traits working their magic on my grades. I also don’t like sounding conceded either, so talking about my grades can be uncomfortable lol.

I like challenges: I took classes arguably worse than Calc at my school. I just want to learn something in the classes that I struggle with or at least be interested in what I’m taking. For example, my AP Bio teacher is infamous for only giving out ten or so A’s each year to her 200+ students and is really candid about it (tells us during orientation), but I took her class anyways because biology really interests me. Calc on the other hand, that would be a struggle I would gain much less from since it doesn’t interest me nor will I most likely use that information in the future.

I took high school math before high school lol.

Rigor is important for competitive college admission. With so many schools going test optional this year, I’d argue it’s even more important this cycle. Drop the AP electives (Psych and art history), and focus on your core academic courses, including calculus.

Have you had a course in bio, chem, and physics? If not, drop env sci and add in the science you are missing (it doesn’t have to be AP).

What about foreign language?

Competitive college admission isn’t about who is taking the most APs. Ad coms know which courses are easier and which are more rigorous. They want to see students challenging themselves. What you get out of taking calc is being better prepared for the rigors of college and a better shot at admission. Universities admit students they know will succeed in in their competitive environment.

Is there a non AP version of Calculus that you could take with a different teacher? If not, I agree with @mikemac 's excellent suggestions about how to supplement what is provided in the classroom. There are also many good videos on Khan Academy and YouTube that can help.

Take calculus through FLV. You’ll have calc on your transcript and not the bad teacher.
Make sure you have foreign language through level 4 or AP.
Are you aiming for UF?

I’ve taken chem and bio, I can’t take physics because I don’t have the pre-req. I took 2 years of Latin (a mistake I made by listening to a counselor), and my school does not offer 3 or AP Latin. So I’m basically maxing out on what I can do.

That’s probably what I’ll end up doing (supplementing). During my contemplation, many of my good calc friends have offered to help too.

I ideally want to attend Duke, but UF is financially the best bet. I can’t take a foreign language up to year 4 because I took Latin and further classes are not offered at my school. I shouldn’t have taken Latin, but that’s what I’ve got.

Right now you are thinking of just HS and maybe your GPA.

Think about college.
Many people who take Calc 1 in college have already taken it in HS. Do you want the first time you see Calc to be in college?

Is there a non-AP Calc class in your HS?

You are not horrible at Math…math might not be easy for you but you have the drive and study skills to do well in math.

Consider taking AP Calc…but get a tutor, form a study group, go to your teacher’s office hours, watch Khan Academy videos, and get a book of Calc problems so you can practice extra.

You will have the same thing in college…you may have to take a class that is not “easy” for you…but you can use these techniques to get you through it.

Take FLVS Calc and Latin.
Another possibility - take FLVS Calc but take a foreign language through a local community college: 3 semesters would qualify for Level 3.
(I’d recommend Italian, as it’d be the easiest for someone who took Latin. And of courde ylu could see if the community college offerd Latin 103, but it’s not very common).

@MyDreamIsDuke If the dream is Duke, you should also take Physics. It doesn’t have to be AP.

If its not related to your major than I would say just don’t take it, especially if you think your going to do badly in the class. Invest your time in an activity/class that is actually related to your major. Why just randomly take a “hard” class just because other students do?

Good Luck!

Can you take non AP Calc?

I have decided to take Calc! I’ll probably supplement my learning with some extra studying sources. Thanks.

Way to go! You can’t stress the amount of online math content. Is a lot and if you find the right website and youtube channel you are good to go. Good Luck :slight_smile: @MyDreamIsDuke

“Making this excuse because you are afraid of your 4.0 makes me think that you only care about your GPA instead of learning something that might be helpful.”

@NASA2014 most people care about their GPA in high school and most in college as well, especially if you’re going the pre-professional route. Pre-meds e.g. go way beyond caring, they’ll do a lot to protect it, taking some classes in the summer at another college, not using their AP credit, strategically knowing what professors to get, how to best use their pass/fail options if the college allows a couple classes pass/fail. Also a lot of kids take pride in having a 4.0 or being val/sal, (I wasn’t close to either) and classmates still respect the val/sals not judge them as you’re doing.

Anyway OP, I think you made the right choice on this. I have posted before that at a college admissions presentation I attended, the adcom said Calc is one of the first courses the look for in the transcript if you have the opportunity to take it, even for non-stem. good luck!

However, some of these grade-grubbing methods (repeating AP credit, taking summer classes at another college, large amounts of optional passed/not-passed grading) are obvious enough that medical school admission readers may look down on them.