What schools would you say have the most down-to-earth kids attending?

<p>emeraldkity4:"You might consider schools that have a high percentage of graduates going on to volunteer positions.
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<p>Interesting. By that logic, one should thus consider Northwestern who is #12 among medium-sized schools in producing Peace Corps volunteers. In spite of their fashion sense, they produce many Peace Corps volunteers, while a similar school that one would consider more laid back, California’s Stanford, doesn’t appear on the list.
<a href=“http://www.peacecorps.gov/news/resources/stats/pdf/schools2007.pdf[/url]”>http://www.peacecorps.gov/news/resources/stats/pdf/schools2007.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>It is interesting that most of the schools mentioned by the posters as down-to-earth (William and Mary #6 medium, Maryland #12 large, Brown #17 medium, Willamette #9 small, UCLA #19 large, UC Santa Barbara #22 large, Michigan #4 large, Wisconsin #2 large and Wash U #23 medium) appear on the list of top producers of Peace Corps volunteers. So maybe there is something to the link between down-to-earth students and the Peace Corps.</p>

<p>William and Mary with all their frats and sororities? We saw more pretention there than just about anywhere else. All the tour guides were Greek and were very proud of it.</p>

<p>In the interest of accuracy: 22% of undergraduate men at W & M are in fraternities; 28% of undergraduate women are in sororities (as of June, 2006). There are 14 fraternities and 12 sororities at W & M, on a campus of approximately 7500 students. </p>

<p>I don’t know exactly what is meant by “pretension” above (pretentiousness, maybe?). There are many, many public schools more deeply immersed in Greek life than W & M. I imagine the tour guides you encountered are positive about their Greek experience because tour guides are typically students whose college experience is positive, Greek or otherwise. It’s hard for me to believe that “all” the tour guides are Greek anywhere.</p>

<p>I’m not too “up” on larger schools, but …</p>

<p>Many, many kids love U of MI. My D is an exception, but she has a lot of friends there/going there. They really like it. I agree that the midwest is very unpretentious. I would think that most medium to larger schools in the midwest would fit your S’s needs. I don’t know your financial situation … OOS is usually pretty expensive. If there is a gap, private schools might be worth looking into just because they might give better aid.</p>

<p>Although it was too big for my D, we found WashU to have very friendly students. We also felt that Northwestern had a lot of nice kids, but I know others who disagree (only spent a day, though … maybe had the good fortune of meeting the best!). I know a young woman who just graduated from North Central, outside Chicago … she thought it had the nicest students around. Grand Valley in MI has very happy students. I know kids who love Valpraiso. If it’s not too small, Denison has very friendly students.</p>

<p>Just a few ideas!</p>

<p>UCLA … very diverse as well and you will meet many chill people that know what’s up…</p>

<p>UMich - not down to earth
UW - down to earth
NW - somewhere in-between</p>

<p>I have to disagree about UMich. It’s a huge school … and I think the overall vibe is definitely nice, down to earth kids. I can’t speak for OOS kids, but I know lots of MI kids there … far from snotty as a whole. So many kids from MI are NOT what the CC perception of a UMich student seems to be!</p>

<p>I’m talking from the perspective of an instater. More of our pretentious people go to UM than anywhere else, however, a lot of laid back kids go there too, but among midwestern colleges - UMich = not laid back.</p>

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<p>I don’t really get that feel from W&M although maybe. However most people in Va who want to go there are between W&M and UVA. I don’t know anything about numbers, but in terms of perception and culture, greek life at W&M doesn’t even compare to UVA. I don’t know if either is “less pretentious” because that’s a hard thing to put your finger on. The term I use for W&M, compared to UVA, is “less conventional.” UVA’s a fine school, very appealing, very nice kids just like anywhere. However it is very…conventional. That’s the only word I can ever think of. W&M tends to have a student body that is a little more out there and little more openly “if we want to have a juggling club performance to Ghostbusters we will just do it in the middle of everything”. Whereas UVA would have more serious a capella groups. I love both schools but you can’t go to both, and they do have a different feel. I can only speak to myself but there is really more of a visible spirit of activism on the W&M campus which is really what appeals to me. However I really want to stress I can’t put down UVA, fine school with many fine people who I love. </p>

<p>Tech is hard to explain, there’s a lot of a spirit. It’s maybe not as much for anti-establishment type people, in terms of general perception and culture, but the truth is I know literally tons of kids like that there and they do fine. The beauty of Tech is that it’s so big that really you have to find at least a few other people who you mesh with, and once that happens your “world” there, so to speak, becomes a lot smaller. But it maybe has a closer feel to UVA than W&M. Within Va, UVA and Tech are known for having this rivalry. Don’t know the numbers of greek life there, practically I know a lot of a people in frats or sororities, but there are some pretty big co-ed professional fraternities so that could skew the numbers since it’s really not the same “Animal House” type thing you’d traditionally consider (for any school that could be true really). </p>

<p>And from what limited knowledge I have the people there (pretty limited), I’d suggest Reed.</p>

<p>Among top tier universities, Northwestern has one of the highest percentages of origin from public HS (73%) and by standards of its academic peers, is one of the most cooperative, least intensely competitive campuses. Students come in all shapes and sizes, there is no dominant profile, and tolerance dominates attitudes. It also has one of the strongest communications majors in the country, a major only available at a small number of similarly ranked schools.</p>

<p>I’d also second Kelmom’s words about diversity on campus and the overall vibe at Michigan from students I know there. I’d point out that the university also has a strong communications department – I don’t know how important consideration this is for your son.</p>

<p>That remark about Wm and Mary being heavily Greek and pretentious is not accurate. There is a remarkable amount of affluence at Wm and Mary and UVa especially, and a significant portion of the OOS students are paying full freight. But
Why I think Wm and Mary students are down to earth…and there are also a few thousand of these students at UVa…The DC area and the military bases on the coast are full of people who may be VA residents for tax purposes but did not originate in VA. They have transient parents, many of whom have interesting back stories and bring them with them. Not only that, but they may have highly educated transient parents. They also may have highly educated transient parents working for the feds, for gazillions of non profits or lobbying orgs and for the military. So there are people with children at Wm and Mary who are more rich in education and diversity than in salaries. Govt employees do “allright” in salaries but they are not rich. I find these families bring a lot to both universities.
Mary Washington is also a very refreshing college and there is nothing pretentious about James Madison.</p>

<p>Michigan is hardly down-to-Earth. I swear to God, I wonder sometimes if people posting on this website have any experience with these colleges. </p>

<p>Wisconsin <em>is</em> down-to-earth, but sadly on websites such as this, that is a negative. Unless you’re cut throat, race-to-the-top of the US News, you are deemed inferior to often times very similiar peer schools.</p>

<p>I have two ideas. One is: Syracuse University because its Communications schools is supposed to be top-shelf; it’s a small city in upstate New York, nothing fabulous but still a city. Weather is terrrrrible all winter (heavy lake-effect snow events), although college students are affected much less by these than homeowners since it’s the care of property that is the hardest piece. Classes usually stay in session, kids are young, so blizzards don’t shut down the learning the way it shuts down a business or public school with school bus issues. Often the State Univ at Buffalo is open on snow days when the public schools must close; it’s quite different to have 6 year-olds waiting outdoors for buses than hearty 20 year olds walking from dorms to classrooms.
Fall and late spring (May 1 onward) are delightful; summer outstanding in upstate NY, if he spends a summer term at Syracuse. SYracuse does attract many NYC-area kids, so that can be a source of irrritation if trying to escape snootism. </p>

<p>I’d also ask him to challenge himself just a bit harder on the “snoot” factor. It’s easy to feel uncomfortable by freshman year encounters, discovering how so many other families raise kids with values different from home. If he found other things he liked about the school, he might rationalize it and say that, as a Communications major, he MUST learn to cope with everyone. If he’s observing the snoots from afar and feeling badly, that’s an attitude change he could make on his part. If, on the other hand, they are closely bullying, commenting or scrutinizing him (e.g., a roommate and that roommate’s circle of friends…) well, that’s closer and more difficult to handle constantly.</p>

<p>Have you tried giving him a pep talk (not just agreeing with him) to blow off the snoots a bit more, and be less ruled by them?</p>

<p>Has he challenged himself to join some grittier activities on campus (such as politcal activism to help Katrina or Darfur victims, for example) where he’d meet those motivated by more than designer labels?</p>

<p>These would all be worth exploring if he is on the fence about transferring.</p>

<p>On the other hand, there’s a “tipping point” for everything; and if the fit turns out is wrong for him, he’s lucky b/c Communications majors are all over the country now.
Is there anything in Atlanta at Emory (since CNN is headquartered there)?
I’m guessing you’ve already considered Boston University–I hear they have a great Communications school too…and yet that’s a place where he might be finding “snoots” from the Northeast.</p>

<p>Now I’m going to launch into some stereotypes, but please hold your fire, everyone, until I get through this:</p>

<p>Basically, if a kid is not suburban and wealthy, he will be stunned at the culture of his peers when he gets to college, because a goodly number of suburban wealthy kids engage in a lot of flaunting and vocal judging of others. If they don’t judge, they sometimes offend by saying things as if “everybody” knows or does something…when all “everybody” means is, everybody raised just like them. It’s a provincialism. </p>

<p>I find that rural-raised kids are by necessity very humble, sometimes more defensive than they need to be since their environment offers great community-building values but they can’t always articulate them against the gloss of the suburbs and cities. And urban kids sometimes are skilled at sizing people up and deciding who’s for them and nuts to the rest, so they don’t get their feelings hurt by what others do or say.</p>

<p>But if your kid comes from a small city or is from the not-upscale-suburbs, it can really be rough to meet kids who wear it on their chest, "I’m from Competitve Public H.S. just outside of (Major City X); “What, you’ve never heard of (Private School y)” or if from an urban public district, they’ll surely identify if they went to a “Magnet School.” My S began hearing about others’ “magnet schools” when he was moving in to his freshman dorm. At the time, he was carrying a refrigerator upstairs with a 'fridge magnet name of his lackluster rural school. He laughed, "There’s my ‘magnet school.’ " So sometimes a bit of assertive humor is also helpful, but that takes much confidence and your S might not be feeling so cheeky right now.</p>

<p>The only counterbalance to it for a young adult is to put it all in a box called “It’s Them” and not be judged by it, then just as quickly go aggressively out into the campus life (away from the screens) and find a small handful of real friends who care about something. With a half-dozen buddies (in an organization, doing something) his emotional attention will be redirected towards those people and the “snoots” will become more background-blur, less central to his thoughts each day.</p>

<p>I guess you can have many different perceptions of the same thing! Another reason why we can “suggest,” but it still might not be the right place for the particular student. :)</p>

<p>Heck, I’m not exactly a U of M fan … and while plenty full-of-themselves kids go there … I know more who are just plain folk (some with less than stellar test scores, BTW). Funny how we can see the same thing through very different eyes.</p>

<p>Lilymom,
Since U of Miami didn’t work out (I don’t blame your son), why not consider the six hour drive north and try UF???</p>

<p>My son LOVES UF. The kids are friendly and there are a lot of different types of kids. And they love their Gator sports!</p>

<p>What does the OP mean by down to earth? Is the student looking to attend a school where everyone is just like him, or where family incomes are clustered around a narrow range? And what’s not to like about schools in the “middle of nowhere”? Seems to me that could be interpreted by a sensitive person as a snooty remark - so I’d say I need more information on what the problem is and what it is the OP is looking for in a school.</p>

<p>Indiana- Go Hoosiers</p>

<p>“Basically, if a kid is not suburban and wealthy, he will be stunned at the culture of his peers when he gets to college, because a goodly number of suburban wealthy kids engage in a lot of flaunting and vocal judging of others. If they don’t judge, they sometimes offend by saying things as if “everybody” knows or does something…when all “everybody” means is, everybody raised just like them. It’s a provincialism.”</p>

<p>Very asute assessment! Not true in all cases, but is a good analysis of something I’ve been unable to put my finger on historically. If this could be read by many kids going to college from rural/less than wealthy areas, there would be quite a few salvaged egos.</p>

<p>^ I agree. I could pick out the (relatively) wealthy suburban kids in an instant. My sister at another state school could too; her comment was that they were ‘into themselves’. I thought they lacked maturity. I think it’s safe to say they weren’t down to earth.</p>

<p>Of course there were exceptions, and of course I imagine they could pick out the ‘hicks’ i.e. non-suburbanites too.</p>

<p>I actually find Tufts, despite it being a private college in New England, to be very down to earth, as the whole ideal of “active citizenship” permeates throughout the campus. Just my two cents.</p>