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IAmBiophysics:
julliet, I can see you are studying psychology. I was speaking more to the life/biomedical sciences. At every interview I had, most applicants were from top 20 schools and most current graduate students had also attended top 20 schools.
That has been my experience in the humanities as well, which are generally far more selective than any other field. As was noted earlier, however, this speaks MUCH more to the quality of faculty and the level of research support available than any sort of nebulous prestige factor associated with a college’s name.</p>
<p>A similar perspective:
At U.C. Riverside (ranked 31 in the Philosophical Gourmet Report), we received about 200 applications last year, of which we admitted 24 (more than usual for us) for an entering class of 11. Note: This admit rate is very high because only half of them, at most, are funded due to UC budgets. ~wr86 Students we admitted typically had GPAs of 3.8 or more, and most of them had virtually straight A’s (that is, almost no A-minuses) in their upper-division philosophy classes by senior year, if they were applying as undergraduates. Of our entering class of 11 students, four had perfect 4.0 GPAs in their last enrolled institution (whether undergrad or MA). </p>
<p>To get into the top-ranked philosophy departments is considerably more difficult than to get into UCR. To my knowledge no UCR undergraduate has ever been admitted to a top-15 philosophy Ph.D. program (certainly not in the 10 years I’ve been here), though we’ve had some students with straight A’s, very strong letters, and excellent writing samples. When I was a student at Berkeley, it seemed that almost all my classmates were from top universities (Harvard, Princeton) or renowned liberal arts colleges (Amherst, Swarthmore). The few who weren’t from such name-brand institutions seemed to have done time at such colleges (a classmate from Northeastern, for example, had spent a year at Oxford and had letters from professors there). I don’t want to suggest that it’s impossible for a student from a middle-tier school to get into a top Ph.D. program, but the odds appear to be long even if you’re valedictorian.</p>
<p>When I applied to graduate school in 1991, I had literally straight-A’s from Stanford (except for an A- and a B+ my very first term and one A- later) with a liberal sprinking of A+'s (one semester I took four courses and received four A+'s), very strong GREs (800/790/750, back when it had three sections), what seems to me now in retrospect to be a good writing sample, and letters from leading philosophers (Fred Dretske, John Dupre, and P.J. Ivanhoe) one of whom later invited me to contribute to an anthology based on one of my undergraduate essays (and so presumably wrote a strong letter). I was not admitted to Harvard.
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