<p>here’s why portapotties is impractical… There’s 3000 of them. That’s like a small town. Doesn’t matter how many of them they sent in, they’re going to fill up on a daily basis. They’ve already lost a ton of money due to the refund, as well as an inactive cruise ship that’s not operating, but should be. they’re not going to shell out more money for that kind of transportation.</p>
<p>I also think porta potties were ruled out b/c the ship has no stabilizers. It’s reported to list and rock at sea. Not a good potty situation.</p>
<p>Hmm… 
I suppose it might be hard to anchor the porta-potties down… really don’t like to think about this.</p>
<p>Really, though, there does not seem to be any excuse for not having sent out food. They aren’t on the moon… and given the bad publicity from this, in retrospect I think Carnival is going to wish they had spent whatever they needed to in order to provide some kind of food and sanitation support. This will be a marketing case study at business schools in the future, I suspect. :)</p>
<p>a ship that big would only destabilize in a hurricane.</p>
<p>Those passengers ought to read the contract they signed with the cruise ship company. Some companies contract’s say that suit must be brought in Miami, which means the plaintiff would have to travel there for all court appearances. It may also limit the time to bring suit. And you have to prove that the engine fire was due to the operator’s negligence. </p>
<p>For those who have been merely inconvenienced by pooping in a plastic bag and by the smells, I’d say take the offer. </p>
<p>Hopefully they are all washing their hands very well and won’t get sick from the lack of sanitation. </p>
<p>But I read some have fallen on fecal matter on the floor. If they broke bones due to that, then yes, hold out for more money.</p>
<p>Ognopgod, the quote in your post, post #15, combining toilets and burgers triggered memories of the movie Yes Men where a couple of guys pretended to be W.T.O. lecturers on recycled feces burgers. Memories that I prefer not to remember. :(</p>
<p>I have cruiseaphobia because youre pretty much stuck in a ship for days. I also have porta-pottyphobia" because its like my worst nightmare–stuck in a dark, germ-ridden, smelly confined space.</p>
<p>The CCL Triumph situation is a deplorable fiasco.</p>
<p>I just can’t even imagine how awful this must be. I would be losing my mind at this point.</p>
<p>I did hear last night that there were passengers in wheelchairs and of course, no working elevators, so they were stuck on whatever level they were on. Seems like they could have at least gotten them off. (Or would getting a few off cause a run?)</p>
<p>I’m still thinking about what amount of money would be fair…not intending to bankrupt or even punish Carnival…just compensation for enduring a horrible experience (and assuming no feces borne illness.)</p>
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<p>Assuming that most have no desire to sue, and even if the passengers have no cause of action, $500 still seems insulting.</p>
<p>My graduation present is a cruise around the Carribean and Mexico. </p>
<p>Oh joy. </p>
<p>I don’t know what’s enough, but I agree with upthread that unless this was serious negligence on Carnival’s part, they don’t deserve to go bankrupt over this. Honestly, mistakes DO happen.</p>
<p>I should also throw in that they should cover any medical costs. I’m sure some people are going to get sick out of this incident.</p>
<p>Cruise ships are akin to a large toilet in my mind anyway. Reality is just catching up to perception. There is no incentive for them to give better service as long as people keep lining up to board.</p>
<p>Report coming out that the NTSB is investigating as this particular ship, (Tribune or Tribute; whatever its name is) has had numerous maintenance issues/problems over the last year…
this is where the legal liability could “sink” (sorry, I couldn’t resist) Carnival in terms of law suits…</p>
<p>Krlilies, I also have ppp (portapottyphobia-itus) and one of my worst recurring dream has to do with toilets, dirrrty toilets. LOL.</p>
<p>Well, I suppose that slushing around of porta potties or God-forbid, knocked down potties is not a good sight. They didn’t drop the food to restrict the output of waste. Now I understand. Now that they are half a day away, they have been refueled, stocked with food and all is well reported to the news media but relatives say that passengers are reporting otherwise. My DH is actually surprised that stock only fell by 4% so far.</p>
<p>Next cruise, I am bringing along my inflatable portable toilet with ultra long chute that goes into the beautiful blue pristine ocean. See it marketed at the next shark tank.</p>
<p>Report says the tow rope being used to tow it in snapped and its adrift again. Oh my. Happy Valentines day to them :(</p>
<p>they were using ONE tow strap to haul the ship? who the hell is coordinating this? good lord…</p>
<p>Have never been a fan of cruise ships due to the fact that they exploit their service workers. To keep prices down, the staff is paid almost nothing. Carnival could have added back up engines to prevent this disaster, but chose not to to keep costs down.
They are the Greyhound of cruise lines. What do people expect??</p>
<p>“a ship that big would only destabilize in a hurricane”</p>
<p>In the past, there was a reasonable and safe ratio between a vessel’s draft (below the waterline) and air draft (above the waterline). The cruise ships today have lost the reasonable proportions between what’s below and above the waterline, making the vessels dependent on stabilizers not only to battle rough weather but to stay upright with only slight to moderate breezes.</p>
<p>My folks were both injured on the 2005 Norwegian Dawn. Stabilizers turned off and hit by a large wave. It wasn’t pretty. Mom suffered a stroke and dad twisted his ankle. They braced themselves in the hallway and watched as the grand piano and all the furniture in the adjoining lounge crashed more than a dozen times back and forth from one side of the ship to the other and finally crashed through the wall.
As anyone who sailed aboard the Titanic will tell you…bigger is not always better.</p>
<p>Correction-- its says A towline, not THE towline, so hopefully more than one!! [Coast</a> Guard: Cruise ship stopped; towline broken - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/coast-guard-cruise-ship-stopped-towline-broken-192926545.html]Coast”>http://news.yahoo.com/coast-guard-cruise-ship-stopped-towline-broken-192926545.html)</p>
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<p>Years ago I followed the blog of a young woman who worked on one of the Disney cruise ships. She loved all things Disney, had worked in the parks and wanted to work on a ship. She was discouraged by those doing the hiring…I think she was the only American crew member at entry level. Her writings were so eye opening. She didn’t intend to trash DCL, she so wanted to love the experience, she didn’t write with any venom. But the working and living conditions she described were grim.</p>
<p>Carnival has a $30 Billion market capitalization. This will not bankrupt them, but there’s no way the offer should be $500. Multiply it by 10-20 and you might be in the right ballpark. </p>
<p>I know someone that’s senior at the port of Mobile. I’m sure he’s not a happy camper right now. </p>
<p>Regarding tow lines. You can’t have too many, as you only want to pull in one direction. Frankly, I would have demanded to be airlifted out of that floating toilet. </p>
<p>If I ever go on a cruise, this story cements my plan to have a balcony room.</p>
<p>the pure concept of being on a boat in the middle of the sea doens’t sound very flattering to me. Plus, you’re on international territory. No insurance there. It doesn’t make sense. They must have some crazy sexy ads to make this thing popular.</p>
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from the company’s perspective, 30 Billion in capital does not justify spending 20 million just for damage control.</p>